Mind Character Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Ya'll over hear complaining about DE and FS picks and I'm sitting here like WTF mate? Why on God's green earth are we trading away picks to move up for a TE when David Njoku has clearly shown he can be a legit threat in NFL. Its not his fault the QBs on his team are garbage. Hayden Hurst is going to be talked about as the most naturally gifted/talented TE to come into the draft since Kellen Winslow Jr/Tyler Eifert...and he's etter than them. He's an offensive weapon. And split out wide as WR in college...just like Hue used Eifert and Todd Heap They create serious mismatches and would be dynamic offensive playmakers in Two TE sets that Hue loves to run. The name of the game is to get dynamic talent on the field. it doesn't matter one's a WR and another is a TE or both are TEs If you saw Hurst play, it would make sense,but to you "WTF another TE...that makes no sense" LOL...watch how footall is played in the NFL....look how Hue likes to scheme...what could be done with big bodied fast athletes that can jump and catch like Hurst and Njoku with Saquon Barkley coming out the backfield and still upgrading WR talent with other picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Yeah I don't care what type of player the guy is I am just going to sit back and let simple logic do its work. I would bet all I have right now that the Browns do not draft a TE in the 1st round this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Yeah I don't care what type of player the guy is I am just going to sit back and let simple logic do its work. I would bet all I have right now that the Browns do not draft a TE in the 1st round this spring. Yea the Browns just traded UP last year in the 1st round to get the TE they wanted. Highly doubt they take one for the next 2 years in any round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I did just watch Hurst highlights and I will say he is damned legit. He looks like a future stud. If last year was a stacked draft and this year is as weak as it seems right now then there is no way in hell he slips to #24 anyway. Again even if he slides that far there is zero chance the Browns trade up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Yeah I don't care what type of player the guy is I am just going to sit back and let simple logic do its work. I would bet all I have right now that the Browns do not draft a TE in the 1st round this spring. 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Yea the Browns just traded UP last year in the 1st round to get the TE they wanted. Highly doubt they take one for the next 2 years in any round. It's about PASS CATCHERS and PLAYMAKERS It doesn't matter if it's a TE or WR Why are you guys getting so caught up with that it's a TE Football is played with 11 men on the field on each side. The goal is to get as many playmakers on the field as you can...however they come. The Offense: QB Kirk Cousins RB Saquon Barkley WR Corey Coleman// Michael Gallup // Terrelle Pryor WR Calvin Ridley // Josh Gordon TE/HB Hayden Hurst (OMG...gasp another TE....blashpemy...shouldn't this be a FB or another WR...news flash...what if the TE/Playmaker is better, stronger, and just as fast) TE David Njoku LT Joe Thomas LG Joel Bitonio C JC Tretter RG Kevin Zeiter RT Shon Coleman The Defense: DE Myles Garrett DT Danny Shelton // Trevon Coley DT Larry Ogunjobi // Emmanuel Ogbah DE Bradley Chubb // Emmanuel Ogbah WLB Jamie Collins MLB Joe Schobert SLB Christian Kirksey CB Jason Mccourty CB A free agent // rookie or someone FS Deshon Elliot SS Jabrill Peppers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Whoa! All Caps. You must be shouting now. Dude I get it he looks like a really good football player and you really want good football players on the Browns, but I'm still siding with logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Mind Character Im getting caught that its a TE because nobody outside of NE ever uses 2 TE on the field at the same time. Hell, the staff loves Devalve and we hardly ever see them on the field at the same time. Also, its because young QBs have a tendancy to not throw to TEs and over the middle. They stick to outside WRs where there are easier throws and dont have to read the middle of the field with all of the coverages. And even NE doesnt do it a whole lot anymore. Secondly, TE is the one position that takes the absolute longest to develop. There hasnt been a 1st round TE that has lit the world on fire as a every game difference maker their rookie year since Kellen Winslow Jr. 13 years ago. I get taking the best player available, but being realistic is also a trump card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Mel Kiper Jr. Jr. is at it again in the NFL draft forum. He's like a bad penny. @MWil23 @LETSGOBROWNIES(I know there are others that are fans of his material, I just forget who) On 11/5/2017 at 2:10 PM, CalhounLambeau said: June - Build Player Database July - Build Player Database August - Prospect Quick Viewing September - Background Work October - Background Work November - Background Work December - Player Database Condensing/Organizing January - Film Evaluation February - Film Evaluation March - Prospect Measurables Review April - Final Grades May - Final Grades That is pretty much my schedule. Of course there are exceptions. June - Read experts opinions on possible people that could enter draft July - Write said names down August - Youtube clips September - See above ^ October - Write about above "film" ^ November - Condense 1,000 player "database" into only 500 prospects December - Write said names in "database" January - Watch bowl games and Youtube February - Watch NFL combine and step up Youtube game March - Come up with clever but meaningless evals such as shin length and hip structure April - Combine "measurable" and Youtube clips with what Mel Kiper's list looks like May - Pimp evals like a boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 All I know is I really hope he doesn’t sit there on his couch in his man cave neglecting whatever family in real life that he has to compile a list just to post on here and Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, MWil23 said: All I know is I really hope he doesn’t sit there on his couch in his man cave neglecting whatever family in real life that he has to compile a list just to post on here and Twitter. I thought he was too good for FF and had moved onto greener social media pastures? I actually came across a tweet of his when randomly browsing twitter during the leaked Browns email fiasco. Even when I'm not on here, I can't escape him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, Aztec Hammer said: I thought he was too good for FF and had moved onto greener social media pastures? I actually came across a tweet of his when randomly browsing twitter during the leaked Browns email fiasco. Even when I'm not on here, I can't escape him. He can't quit us, he needs an audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Oh, and I'm with @Mind Character, give me playmakers, idgaf what you call them. If we get another freak TE who can create mismatches, great. It's not like teams haven't had two good TE's before...Gronk and Hernandez, Gronk and Bennett come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 hours ago, Dogbite said: I agree with this. Him and Quenton Nelson are the driving force behind the Notre Dame turn around and somehow Mike McGlinchey is getting all the hype. Nelson is the real deal and Adams is a tank. Nelson looks like one of the best guard prospects in the last few years, he just keep looking more and more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Oh, and I'm with @Mind Character, give me playmakers, idgaf what you call them. If we get another freak TE who can create mismatches, great. It's not like teams haven't had two good TE's before...Gronk and Hernandez, Gronk and Bennett come to mind. Count me in this boat as well. I want us to stop trading out of slots when potential studs are staring us in the face and start grabbing them. We need difference makers, period. The coach will have a nice problem to solve if they happen to be at already solid positions. I saw quite a few sets this past weekend where teams had a TE split out wide - a threat is a threat. Now if there was an equally highly graded WR sitting at the slot where the TE was staring us in the face, I'd prefer to go with the WR, but if not, we're not deep enough to turn our nose up at pro bowl talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, dawgdish said: Count me in this boat as well. I want us to stop trading out of slots when potential studs are staring us in the face and start grabbing them. We need difference makers, period. The coach will have a nice problem to solve if they happen to be at already solid positions. I saw quite a few sets this past weekend where teams had a TE split out wide - a threat is a threat. Now if there was an equally highly graded WR sitting at the slot where the TE was staring us in the face, I'd prefer to go with the WR, but if not, we're not deep enough to turn our nose up at pro bowl talent. I'm all for miter trades, the trades are the reason we have so many picks in the first place. Good teams consistently draft well in the late teens and 20's, no reason we can't either. I want a qb at 1 and then more moneyball personally. I'd like another pair of firsts in 2019 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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