Outside the box draft

[HuskieBear]

51 minutes ago, Sugashane said:

 

Ah crap. I disnt word that properly. Lol

 

It was a dig at how stupid it was when Aguayo was traded up for. Juat saying id rather waste a 2nd round pick than our 8th. 

 

That being said, I am still on the Pineiro train for a 6th or 7th through. I know we have guaranteed cap but that just means he should be able to win the competition. If not better to waste the dead cap than have a crap kicker. 

nah, you did, i was just being sarcastic

[HuskieBear]

1 hour ago, Superman(DH23) said:

We're paying a kicker $4M for 4 years with guaranteed money, we arent drafting a kicker anytime soon.  Now a punter may be a different story

i need to start indicating when i'm being sarcastic. definitely not on board with drafting a specialist anytime before the 6th round

[beardown3231]

59 minutes ago, Sugashane said:

 

Ah crap. I disnt word that properly. Lol

 

It was a dig at how stupid it was when Aguayo was traded up for. Juat saying id rather waste a 2nd round pick than our 8th. 

 

That being said, I am still on the Pineiro train for a 6th or 7th through. I know we have guaranteed cap but that just means he should be able to win the competition. If not better to waste the dead cap than have a crap kicker. 

They just signed Parkey, dude.

[Sugashane]

39 minutes ago, beardown3231 said:

They just signed Parkey, dude.

Forgot his deal was for 4 years - out isn't until year 2 or 3 IIRC. Meh.

Parkey had a great year last year on FGs, but is garbage on kickoffs, as in bottom 5 not averaging 60 yards per kickoff. Overall upgrade over Barth of course, but hopefully O'Donnell does kickoffs like he did a few times last year.

 

1 hour ago, HuskieBear said:

nah, you did, i was just being sarcastic

 

 

Noted. I've been spending too much time in gen forums, here people know my sarcasm. There I have had to explain it.

 

 

[dll2000]

On 4/23/2018 at 2:46 PM, Heinz D. said:

The reason it never happens is because other teams know that the 2 QB team HAS to make a trade--so the poorly picking team has no leverage. 

It was obviously just for fun because nobody ever does it.   

But you are letting every QB needy team have 5 free draft value slots because they know Indy, Bucs, Bears, SF, and Raiders won't take QBs.  

Let's say Bears never called SF and were gambling MT would be there at 3 which was conventional wisdom.  So instead SF decided to just take MT and announce they were open to trading him.  It makes a difference when an actual player is off the board.  It's a known asset now.  

Cleveland, I bet, was gambling they could get him at 12.  They may have been real interested if he was off board and available for picks.  They had a million.

KC and Houston were interested  in MT I think despite whatever they said or may say about their guy now.  No reason to think Bears wouldn't have been interested since he was the plan from the start.

I think you have more leverage in a bidding war for a known in hand player, not less.

It's a moot point anyway because Pace just announced he won't take a QB.  

[G08]

@dll2000 Buffalo was interested in MT10 as well

[dll2000]

Bears could have grabbed Dan Marino at 18 in 1983. 

Shula was pulling his hair out that year because his GM wouldn't trade up for him.  They got lucky he fell all the way to 28.   Different era though.  One in which RBs were thought of as valuable as QBs. 

Now a QB is worth 10 RBs, why I can't figure out what the heck all these mock drafts are with Barkly to the Giants when they can snag a QB and force a trade or have their QB of the future.

If Colts thought Manning was good for 4 or 5 more years they may have made Andrew Luck into a giant bidding war.   Probably could have got another 2 SB's out of it if they made the right picks.

 

[Heinz D.]

4 minutes ago, dll2000 said:

It's a moot point anyway because Pace just announced he won't take a QB.  

I can see why he won't take one...but I wish he had put himself in the position where he could. 

One thing that's always bugged me is why a team that really needs a quarterback doesn't select more than one highly in the same draft. The same goes for any other position really, but QB in particular. 

[dll2000]

NE has turned drafted QBs into better draft picks throughout Brady era.  Belichick could have cleaned up with Garoppolo last year during draft and even made a better trade.   That trade was reportedly an FU to ownership for forcing his hand.

NE has stayed competitive despite losing tons of picks to rules violations and picking at end of the draft for over a decade.   Impressive.  

 

 

 

[Sugashane]

On 4/24/2018 at 3:28 PM, dll2000 said:

NE has turned drafted QBs into better draft picks throughout Brady era.  Belichick could have cleaned up with Garoppolo last year during draft and even made a better trade.   That trade was reportedly an FU to ownership for forcing his hand.

NE has stayed competitive despite losing tons of picks to rules violations and picking at end of the draft for over a decade.   Impressive. 

 

I agree it is impressive, but far less so knowing Brady is back there day in and day out, and outside of NE the other 3 teams are pretty consistently mediocre. That is pretty much 5 wins guaranteed for any playoff caliber team.

 

If they did it with Tyrod Taylor or some other fringe QB then it would be an outstanding accomplishment, but they have the likely GOAT there dominating.