Beast Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Updating mine: Post Preseason Game 1 Suspension List: RB Aaron Jones QB (3) Rodgers, Kizer, Boyle (3) RB (2) Williams, Montgomery FB (1) Ripkowski TE (3) Graham, Lewis, Kendricks WR (7) Adams, Cobb, Allison, Kumerow, Moore, MVS, EQ OT (4) Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Murphy, Spriggs OG (3) Taylor, McCray, Bell OC (2) Linsley, Patrick DT (3) Daniels, Clark, Adams DE (3) Wilkerson, Lowry, Looney OLB (6) Matthews, Perry, Fackrell, Gilbert, Biegel, Donnerson ILB (3) Martinez, Burks, Martini CB (6) Williams, King, Alexander, House, Jackson, Rollins SS (2) Brice, Jones FS (2) Clinton-Dix, Whitehead STs (3) K Crosby, P Scott, LS Bradley Notes: Offense might be too heavy on WRs and one might have to be released, but at this point, I think those 7 have clearly outplayed the depth at other positions. I prefer two QBs but arm strength is hard to sneak to the PS and Boyle has arm strength. When Jones comes back, if there are no IR injuries opening a spot, it's either the 3rd QB, 7th WR or 9th OL (Bell) to go. I had a hard time picking between Bell and Amichia, but I'd try to sneak Amichia back onto the PS. Defense is slightly DL/OLB heavy and ILB/S light, but I thought Looney and Donnerson looked good in the first preseason game, so I added them. I also switched ILB Martini for ILB Thomas. I didn't want to cut S Evans due to his great ST gunner work, but someone had to go, Whitehead has much better coverage and pasted him on the depth late last year and Rollins has been practicing all over including Safety. Rollins verstility is why I kept him as the 6th CB, the 6th CB spot is really a wide open race and anyone guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Thanks, Beast and Finn. This doesn't really look all that problematic. Think the take-home is that they aren't really going to need to cut anybody really promising. If guys like Rollins, Donnerson, Looney, Kendricks, Bell, Patrick, Kumerow, and Boyle are all making it, that means you aren't being forced to cut anybody really super promising/painful. Plus there's still another month of injuries to further open things up for guys who are barely off-the-bubble. Personally: I'd swap out Rollins and trade in at least one between Waters and Pipkens. I'd probably predict keeping both, because CB is so valuable; because both seem to have some pretty interesting upside; and because with Tramon and House both on vet 1-year deals, I think we'll need to replace one or both next year. Donnerson, he looks like PS guy to me (unless he looks *so* talented that they just don't want to expose him). But really remote that he gets any snaps this year. So I'd probably keep 7th corner, or maybe Odom instead? But what do I know. I do get the sense that even within the OLB group, that Pettine might be more oriented towards the DE-style types than Dom would have. So maybe stronger guys like Odom and Gilbert might stick, even if Odom isn't flashing lots of exhibition sacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Suspension List: RB Aaron Jones QB (2) Rodgers, Kizer RB (3) Williams, Montgomery, Mays FB (1) Ripkowski TE (3) Graham, Lewis, Kendricks WR (7) Adams, Cobb, Allison, Kumerow, Moore, MVS, EQ OT (4) Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Murphy, Spriggs OG (3) Taylor, McCray, Bell OC (2) Linsley, Patrick DT (3) Daniels, Clark, Adams DE (2) Wilkerson, Lowry OLB (6) Matthews, Perry, Fackrell, Gilbert, Biegel, Donnerson ILB (3) Martinez, Burks, Martini CB (6) Williams, King, Alexander, Jackson, Rollins, Pipkins SS (2) Brice, Jones, Evans FS (3) Clinton-Dix, Whitehead STs (3) K Crosby, P Scott, LS Bradley PS (10) QB -Boyle, WR - Yancey, WR - Jennings, DL - Looney, OL - Amichia, OL - Day, OL - Light, ILB - Thomas, CB - Brown, TE - Tonyan I'd be tickled to see Gute add depth at OT at cut-downs. There has to be a better option at OT than what we have behind our starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, craig said: Thanks, Beast and Finn. This doesn't really look all that problematic. Think the take-home is that they aren't really going to need to cut anybody really promising. If guys like Rollins, Donnerson, Looney, Kendricks, Bell, Patrick, Kumerow, and Boyle are all making it, that means you aren't being forced to cut anybody really super promising/painful. Plus there's still another month of injuries to further open things up for guys who are barely off-the-bubble. Personally: I'd swap out Rollins and trade in at least one between Waters and Pipkens. I'd probably predict keeping both, because CB is so valuable; because both seem to have some pretty interesting upside; and because with Tramon and House both on vet 1-year deals, I think we'll need to replace one or both next year. Donnerson, he looks like PS guy to me (unless he looks *so* talented that they just don't want to expose him). But really remote that he gets any snaps this year. So I'd probably keep 7th corner, or maybe Odom instead? But what do I know. I do get the sense that even within the OLB group, that Pettine might be more oriented towards the DE-style types than Dom would have. So maybe stronger guys like Odom and Gilbert might stick, even if Odom isn't flashing lots of exhibition sacks? Odom is really stiff and pretty slow, too. No thanks. Gilbert is our third best OLB this year. Fackrell and Biegel have really underwhelmed. I think KF is better SAM backer. He just doesn't have the strength to beat an OT. If only Ted had drafted Lawson instead of Biegel - the D would be looking really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, craig said: Thanks, Beast and Finn. This doesn't really look all that problematic. Think the take-home is that they aren't really going to need to cut anybody really promising. If guys like Rollins, Donnerson, Looney, Kendricks, Bell, Patrick, Kumerow, and Boyle are all making it, that means you aren't being forced to cut anybody really super promising/painful. Plus there's still another month of injuries to further open things up for guys who are barely off-the-bubble. Personally: I'd swap out Rollins and trade in at least one between Waters and Pipkens. I'd probably predict keeping both, because CB is so valuable; because both seem to have some pretty interesting upside; and because with Tramon and House both on vet 1-year deals, I think we'll need to replace one or both next year. Donnerson, he looks like PS guy to me (unless he looks *so* talented that they just don't want to expose him). But really remote that he gets any snaps this year. So I'd probably keep 7th corner, or maybe Odom instead? But what do I know. I do get the sense that even within the OLB group, that Pettine might be more oriented towards the DE-style types than Dom would have. So maybe stronger guys like Odom and Gilbert might stick, even if Odom isn't flashing lots of exhibition sacks? Yeah I think the hardest part of the roster is how to keep the 7 WRs, STers leaders (like SS Evans), and potential guys that you think might deserve a spot. As for your personal changes I think the 6th CB is wide open and could be any of them, I'm only picking Rollins by default of not having a clear answer at the moment. Tramon is actually on a 2-year deal, but I agree House is probably gone next year (unless Tramon retires and they bring House back in his place). I have Donnerson being kept for his pure raw athletic potential. At 250lbs the guy reportedly ran between a 4.45 and a 4.48 in the 40 yard dash, which is faster than most of the Packers WR's 40 times. Also from what I've seen, he plays VERY MEAN... and the combo of the two should make him very good on STs (which is why I'm keeping him). Though on his college tape he looked EXTREMELY RAW and almost zero technique... in the preseason game he used very good technique to get to a RB and force a fumble... so he might be a quick study when he's forced to learned it to play... instead of just getting on the field as a freshmen at his small college. So as of right now, I'd like to keep Donnerson. Question: If you keep Waters and Pipkens, who are you cutting besides Rollins? ... that's my biggest problem... because I'd be very open to keeping an extra DB. I just can't find anyone I'd want to release for that extra DB... there is Fackrell, Biegel, (I guess) Donnerson, Looney, Boyle and the 7th WR. That's about it, as far as choices go. Maybe the answer is which you think you could sneak over to the PS the easiest? ... but I think Donnerson could help out on STs with LB size and DB speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Post Pre-Season Game 1 QB: (2) Rodgers, Kizer RB: (3) Williams, Monty, Mays (Mays gets replaced on the roster by Jones in Week 3 and added to PS) FB: (1) Rip TE: (3) Graham, Lewis, Kendricks WR (7) Adams, Cobb, Allison, MVS, EQ, Moore, Davis OT: (4) Bak, Bulaga, Spriggs, Murphy OG: (3) Taylor, McCray, Bell OC: (2) Linsley, Patrick Total Offense: 25 DL: (5) Clark, Daniels, Wilkerson, Adams, Lowry EDGE: (6) Matthews, Perry, Gilbert, Biegel, Fackrell, Veteran Addition ILB: (3) Martinez, Burks, Veteran Addition CB: (6) King, Williams, House, Alexander, Jackson, Pipkins S: (5) HHCD, Brice, Jones, Whitehead, Evans Total Defense: 25 Special Teams: (3) Crosby, Scott, Bradley On offense, we go heavy at WR as many have discussed. On defense, I think we are still at least one, if not two vet additions away, namely at EDGE and ILB. We still to add a run-stuffing ILB to address Ryan's injury and a vet EDGE would be nice because outside of maybe Gilbert, I'm not expecting much from Biegel/Fackrell as pass rushers. I think we address those positions before Week 1. Fringe/Bubble players who hopefully go to practice squad: Kumerow, Boyle, Yancey, Looney, Donnerson, Pankey, Mays (after Week 2), Martini, Amichia, Waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Probably won't do this again until after the end of the last preseason game. QB: Rodgers/Hundley/Kizer [3/3] RB: Williams/Montgomery/Bougagnon [3/6] FB/TE: Graham/Lewis/Kendricks/Rip [4/10] WR: Adams/Cobb/Allison/Moore/ESB/MVP [6/16] OL: Bakh/Taylor/Linsley/McCray/Bulaga/Murphy/Spriggs/Bell/Day [9/25] DL: Wilkerson/Daniels/Clark/Lowry/Adams/Looney [6/31] OLB: Matthews/Perry/Gilbert/Fackrell/Biegel/Donnerson [6/37] ILB: Martinez/Burks/Martini [3/40] CB: Tramon/King/Jaire/Jackson/House/Pipkins [6/46] S: HHCD/Brice/Jones/Whitehead [4/50] ST: Crosby/Scott/Bradley [3/53] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Probably won't do this again until after the end of the last preseason game. QB: Rodgers/Hundley/Kizer [3/3] RB: Williams/Montgomery/Bougagnon [3/6] FB/TE: Graham/Lewis/Kendricks/Rip [4/10] WR: Adams/Cobb/Allison/Moore/ESB/MVP [6/16] OL: Bakh/Taylor/Linsley/McCray/Bulaga/Murphy/Spriggs/Bell/Day [9/25] DL: Wilkerson/Daniels/Clark/Lowry/Adams/Looney [6/31] OLB: Matthews/Perry/Gilbert/Fackrell/Biegel/Donnerson [6/37] ILB: Martinez/Burks/Martini [3/40] CB: Tramon/King/Jaire/Jackson/House/Pipkins [6/46] S: HHCD/Brice/Jones/Whitehead [4/50] ST: Crosby/Scott/Bradley [3/53] Swap Bouagnon for Kumerow and I'm happy with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lodestar said: Swap Bouagnon for Kumerow and I'm happy with this. Makes us kinda short at the RB position no? Unless you're intending RIP get reps/carries. Eventually a slots gonna have to open at RB for Jones return week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Leader said: Makes us kinda short at the RB position no? Unless you're intending RIP get reps/carries. Eventually a slots gonna have to open at RB for Jones return week 3. Mays and Bouganon have not really shown me anything to deserve a roster spot. We roll with 2 backs IMO until Jones comes back. Cobb can be the emergency back with Rip splitting carries. You're going to carry one of Mays or Bouganon on the PS so it would only be a game you're playing that way. The 3 QBs kind of sucks too but it is what it is. You aren't cutting Kizer and you're cutting a free comp pick if you cut Hundley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Mays and Bouganon have not really shown me anything to deserve a roster spot. We roll with 2 backs IMO until Jones comes back. Cobb can be the emergency back with Rip splitting carries. You're going to carry one of Mays or Bouganon on the PS so it would only be a game you're playing that way. The 3 QBs kind of sucks too but it is what it is. You aren't cutting Kizer and you're cutting a free comp pick if you cut Hundley. Good strategy - but I'm just gun shy about overburdening Monty @ RB - probably too much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Mays and Bouganon have not really shown me anything to deserve a roster spot. We roll with 2 backs IMO until Jones comes back. Cobb can be the emergency back with Rip splitting carries. You're going to carry one of Mays or Bouganon on the PS so it would only be a game you're playing that way. The 3 QBs kind of sucks too but it is what it is. You aren't cutting Kizer and you're cutting a free comp pick if you cut Hundley. Exactly. I don't know that we'd even dress 3 RBs plus Rip in weeks 1 and 2, so what's the point of rostering Bouagnon? Obviously you have a decision to make after week 2 when Jones comes back, but by then the situation will probably look different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Mays and Bouganon have not really shown me anything to deserve a roster spot. We roll with 2 backs IMO until Jones comes back. Cobb can be the emergency back with Rip splitting carries. You're going to carry one of Mays or Bouganon on the PS so it would only be a game you're playing that way. The 3 QBs kind of sucks too but it is what it is. You aren't cutting Kizer and you're cutting a free comp pick if you cut Hundley. Agree. How often does your 3rd RB ever get a snap? Particularly if it's a guy you're planning to waive after two weeks anyway? Zero reason to carry 3 RB's for the first two weeks. (If we want to imagine scenarios where the first and second string player at a particular position both get injured in the same game, we can imagine lots of awkward situations!) Note: I don't get the "cutting a free comp pick if you cut Hundley". Are you saying Hundley was a comp pick many years ago, and you don't want to cut such a guy? Or are you saying that Hundley is going to command such a big contract that we're going to get a valuable comp pick for him? Don't think that's a factor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGreen Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 is there a point in keeping GMO? honestly rather just roll with cobb and adams and roll with moore, kumerow, ESB, and MVS we have graham and kendricks who are "receiving" TEs. along with monty who can play WR if need be. just see no point in keeping allison, but im sure the team won't see it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, IrishGreen said: is there a point in keeping GMO? honestly rather just roll with cobb and adams and roll with moore, kumerow, ESB, and MVS we have graham and kendricks who are "receiving" TEs. along with monty who can play WR if need be. just see no point in keeping allison, but im sure the team won't see it that way It's said the GMO Allison is seen as the clear 3rd best WR behind Cobb and Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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