JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 hours ago, sammymvpknight said: But what guys around his current ADP do you think are much better? I think when you’re looking at RB2 types, I don’t see many that are significantly better. McCaffrey was...but his stock is justifiably rising. I take him in front of guys like Miller, McKinnon and Ajayi. I like Ingram more but you have to consider him missing time. Tbh I don't like much of any of them. That's the problem. I think the whole group around that area isn't worth drafting there. Almost think its better to take best QB/TE available there and I hate picking those early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Tbh I don't like much of any of them. That's the problem. I think the whole group around that area isn't worth drafting there. Almost think its better to take best QB/TE available there and I hate picking those early That may be reason enough to just say screw it and get Ingram who will likely be in the RB1 mix from week 5 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Draft tomorrow. Final dress rehearsal mock. 12 team ppr at the 11 spot QB- Stafford (10) RB- McCaffrey (2) /R. Freeman (4) /Burkhead (6) /K.Johnson (7)/J. Wilkins (12) /A. Jones (13) /Powell (15) WR- Hopkins (1)/Cooper (3)/Agholor (9) /M.Williams (11) TE- Rudolph (8) FLEX- Juju (5) K- Bryant (16) DST- Eagles (14) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Draft tomorrow. Final dress rehearsal mock. 12 team ppr at the 11 spot QB- Stafford (10) RB- McCaffrey (2) /R. Freeman (4) /Burkhead (6) /K.Johnson (7)/J. Wilkins (12) /A. Jones (13) /Powell (15) WR- Hopkins (1)/Cooper (3)/Agholor (9) /M.Williams (11) TE- Rudolph (8) FLEX- Juju (5) K- Bryant (16) DST- Eagles (14) Solid. You have lots of guys I love. Juju, Agholor, Hopkins, Stafford, Rudolph are all going to outplay their ADP. Consider Thomas and Adams at WR...both should take a huge step forward this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Alright, so I use FantasyPros from time to time for quick mock draft purposes. I wanted to employ 2 different strategies and did 3 mocks for each strategy. 0.5 PPR, 11th pick, 2 RB/3 WR starters, must draft 4 RB and 5 WR. First set of 3, I employed the RB+RB strategy for picks 11 and 14 then filled in with the best value. QB - Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions RB - Melvin Gordon | Los Angeles Chargers RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos WR - Allen Robinson | Chicago Bears WR - Marquise Goodwin | San Francisco 49ers TE - Evan Engram | New York Giants K - Stephen Gostkowski | New England Patriots DST - New England Patriots QB Jimmy Garoppolo | San Francisco 49ers RB Marshawn Lynch | Oakland Raiders RB Sony Michel | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Cameron Meredith | New Orleans Saints TE OJ Howard | Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB - Drew Brees | New Orleans Saints RB - Kareem Hunt | Kansas City Chiefs RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Doug Baldwin | Seattle Seahawks WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos WR - Pierre Garcon | San Francisco 49ers TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Philadelphia Eagles QB Philip Rivers | Los Angeles Chargers RB Kerryon Johnson | Detroit Lions RB James White | New England Patriots WR Sterling Shepard | New York Giants WR Kenny Stills | Miami Dolphins TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Drew Brees | New Orleans Saints RB - Melvin Gordon | Los Angeles Chargers RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Amari Cooper | Oakland Raiders WR - Michael Crabtree | Baltimore Ravens WR - Jamison Crowder | Washington Redskins TE - Travis Kelce | Kansas City Chiefs K - Harrison Butker | Kansas City Chiefs DST - Denver Broncos QB Derek Carr | Oakland Raiders RB Chris Carson | Seattle Seahawks RB Theo Riddick | Detroit Lions WR Julian Edelman | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars TE Jordan Reed | Washington Redskins This set of 3, I went with BPA across the board (usually meant Hopkins or OBJ were available). QB - Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions RB - Christian McCaffrey | Carolina Panthers RB - Alex Collins | Baltimore Ravens WR - DeAndre Hopkins | Houston Texans WR - Larry Fitzgerald | Arizona Cardinals WR - Jamison Crowder | Washington Redskins TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Denver Broncos QB Derek Carr | Oakland Raiders RB Lamar Miller | Houston Texans RB James White | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Mike Williams | Los Angeles Chargers TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Andrew Luck | Indianapolis Colts RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars RB - Royce Freeman | Denver Broncos WR - Odell Beckham Jr | New York Giants WR - Amari Cooper | Oakland Raiders WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Robbie Gould | San Francisco 49ers DST - Denver Broncos QB Alex Smith | Washington Redskins RB Dion Lewis | Tennessee Titans RB Carlos Hyde | Cleveland Browns WR Calvin Ridley | Atlanta Falcons WR Cameron Meredith | New Orleans Saints TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Matt Ryan | Atlanta Falcons RB - Joe Mixon | Cincinnati Bengals RB - Alex Collins | Baltimore Ravens WR - Odell Beckham Jr | New York Giants WR - Michael Thomas | New Orleans Saints WR - Michael Crabtree | Baltimore Ravens TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Philadelphia Eagles QB Alex Smith | Washington Redskins RB Dion Lewis | Tennessee Titans RB Carlos Hyde | Cleveland Browns WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Michael Gallup | Dallas Cowboys TE David Njoku | Cleveland Browns Which strategy produced the better or more balanced teams? I'm still leaning towards RB+RB but I could be tempted to go BPA as well, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 hours ago, sammymvpknight said: That may be reason enough to just say screw it and get Ingram who will likely be in the RB1 mix from week 5 on. Didn't think about it that way but yea thats not a bad idea tbh. His ceiling is higher than Drake and pretty much all the other rookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 9 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: Draft tomorrow. Final dress rehearsal mock. 12 team ppr at the 11 spot QB- Stafford (10) RB- McCaffrey (2) /R. Freeman (4) /Burkhead (6) /K.Johnson (7)/J. Wilkins (12) /A. Jones (13) /Powell (15) WR- Hopkins (1)/Cooper (3)/Agholor (9) /M.Williams (11) TE- Rudolph (8) FLEX- Juju (5) K- Bryant (16) DST- Eagles (14) Is it just me or is Burkhead climbing a little too high? New England RBs are still worrisome and they spent a high pick on Michel(although they lost Lewis too) Hopkins/Caff is a strong 1-2 punch. Cooper you are drafting on his potential moreso than the substance so idk how I feel about that but he is a late 3rd so I get it. Freeman in round 4 is good and Juju late 5th would be ideal imo. I like Kerryon there and Agholor plus Rudolph is about as consistent as a non Top-3 TE can be. Overall I like a lot of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, beekay414 said: Alright, so I use FantasyPros from time to time for quick mock draft purposes. I wanted to employ 2 different strategies and did 3 mocks for each strategy. 0.5 PPR, 11th pick, 2 RB/3 WR starters, must draft 4 RB and 5 WR. First set of 3, I employed the RB+RB strategy for picks 11 and 14 then filled in with the best value. QB - Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions RB - Melvin Gordon | Los Angeles Chargers RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos WR - Allen Robinson | Chicago Bears WR - Marquise Goodwin | San Francisco 49ers TE - Evan Engram | New York Giants K - Stephen Gostkowski | New England Patriots DST - New England Patriots QB Jimmy Garoppolo | San Francisco 49ers RB Marshawn Lynch | Oakland Raiders RB Sony Michel | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Cameron Meredith | New Orleans Saints TE OJ Howard | Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB - Drew Brees | New Orleans Saints RB - Kareem Hunt | Kansas City Chiefs RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Doug Baldwin | Seattle Seahawks WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos WR - Pierre Garcon | San Francisco 49ers TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Philadelphia Eagles QB Philip Rivers | Los Angeles Chargers RB Kerryon Johnson | Detroit Lions RB James White | New England Patriots WR Sterling Shepard | New York Giants WR Kenny Stills | Miami Dolphins TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Drew Brees | New Orleans Saints RB - Melvin Gordon | Los Angeles Chargers RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars WR - Amari Cooper | Oakland Raiders WR - Michael Crabtree | Baltimore Ravens WR - Jamison Crowder | Washington Redskins TE - Travis Kelce | Kansas City Chiefs K - Harrison Butker | Kansas City Chiefs DST - Denver Broncos QB Derek Carr | Oakland Raiders RB Chris Carson | Seattle Seahawks RB Theo Riddick | Detroit Lions WR Julian Edelman | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars TE Jordan Reed | Washington Redskins This set of 3, I went with BPA across the board (usually meant Hopkins or OBJ were available). QB - Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions RB - Christian McCaffrey | Carolina Panthers RB - Alex Collins | Baltimore Ravens WR - DeAndre Hopkins | Houston Texans WR - Larry Fitzgerald | Arizona Cardinals WR - Jamison Crowder | Washington Redskins TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Denver Broncos QB Derek Carr | Oakland Raiders RB Lamar Miller | Houston Texans RB James White | New England Patriots WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Mike Williams | Los Angeles Chargers TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Andrew Luck | Indianapolis Colts RB - Leonard Fournette | Jacksonville Jaguars RB - Royce Freeman | Denver Broncos WR - Odell Beckham Jr | New York Giants WR - Amari Cooper | Oakland Raiders WR - Demaryius Thomas | Denver Broncos TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Robbie Gould | San Francisco 49ers DST - Denver Broncos QB Alex Smith | Washington Redskins RB Dion Lewis | Tennessee Titans RB Carlos Hyde | Cleveland Browns WR Calvin Ridley | Atlanta Falcons WR Cameron Meredith | New Orleans Saints TE Trey Burton | Chicago Bears QB - Matt Ryan | Atlanta Falcons RB - Joe Mixon | Cincinnati Bengals RB - Alex Collins | Baltimore Ravens WR - Odell Beckham Jr | New York Giants WR - Michael Thomas | New Orleans Saints WR - Michael Crabtree | Baltimore Ravens TE - Greg Olsen | Carolina Panthers K - Mason Crosby | Green Bay Packers DST - Philadelphia Eagles QB Alex Smith | Washington Redskins RB Dion Lewis | Tennessee Titans RB Carlos Hyde | Cleveland Browns WR Marqise Lee | Jacksonville Jaguars WR Michael Gallup | Dallas Cowboys TE David Njoku | Cleveland Browns Which strategy produced the better or more balanced teams? I'm still leaning towards RB+RB but I could be tempted to go BPA as well, yet. Breaking my balls here BK, 6 mocks in a row with 2 different strategies set up lol Team 1 I like pretty much top to bottom. Good starters and depth all over the place. Stafford has a high floor and even some potential and Jimmy G has all sort of potential so thats a good mix. Definitely my favorite of the 1st 3. Team 2 I love the QB combo and the RBs still but I like the WRs of Team 1 more. Olsen and Engram are so close that it doesn't matter imo Team 3 is my least favorite of these 3. Part of it might be your WRs since Crabtree and Garcon don't do much for me. I see you went TE early which is fine but would have rather seen 1 more better WR than those 2 and think its possible. Also I don't like the QB situation as much Team 4 is pretty close to team 6. I like Caff more than Mixon but Thomas more than Fitz Team 5 is clearly my favorite. Starters across the board that I like although Luck scares me some, Alex Smith should fill in fine Team 6 This one is fine. Don't like the RB duo as much as team 5 but there is a better 1-2 at WR here. Crabtree v Demaryius is the real difference maker for me as to why I like 5 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Is it just me or is Burkhead climbing a little too high? New England RBs are still worrisome and they spent a high pick on Michel(although they lost Lewis too) Hopkins/Caff is a strong 1-2 punch. Cooper you are drafting on his potential moreso than the substance so idk how I feel about that but he is a late 3rd so I get it. Freeman in round 4 is good and Juju late 5th would be ideal imo. I like Kerryon there and Agholor plus Rudolph is about as consistent as a non Top-3 TE can be. Overall I like a lot of this I like Burkhead in the 5/6 turn. The Pats backfield is a crap shoot week to week, but they are a high scoring offense that loves to throw to the RB's and very few WR options. Plus Burkhead they trust on the goal line and in the redzone. I'd love him on my team in just this very scenario as my #1 bench guy. I'm ok with him as my Flex. I'd be nervous having him as a starting RB because of the consistency issues of how the Pats use their RB's. Honestly, if I can do it. I'd like to hedge my bets and take Burkhead and Michel. At least one of those two are going to turn into a lottery ticket that could win you a league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: I like Burkhead in the 5/6 turn. The Pats backfield is a crap shoot week to week, but they are a high scoring offense that loves to throw to the RB's and very few WR options. Plus Burkhead they trust on the goal line and in the redzone. I'd love him on my team in just this very scenario as my #1 bench guy. I'm ok with him as my Flex. I'd be nervous having him as a starting RB because of the consistency issues of how the Pats use their RB's. Honestly, if I can do it. I'd like to hedge my bets and take Burkhead and Michel. At least one of those two are going to turn into a lottery ticket that could win you a league. Idk if that’s the team i want to hedge my bets with unless its a PPR league and yoh think Michel will basically be Dion Lewis. I know the 2 of them were a good 1-2 worth starting together but that can limit you some too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Breaking my balls here BK, 6 mocks in a row with 2 different strategies set up lol Team 1 I like pretty much top to bottom. Good starters and depth all over the place. Stafford has a high floor and even some potential and Jimmy G has all sort of potential so thats a good mix. Definitely my favorite of the 1st 3. Team 2 I love the QB combo and the RBs still but I like the WRs of Team 1 more. Olsen and Engram are so close that it doesn't matter imo Team 3 is my least favorite of these 3. Part of it might be your WRs since Crabtree and Garcon don't do much for me. I see you went TE early which is fine but would have rather seen 1 more better WR than those 2 and think its possible. Also I don't like the QB situation as much Team 4 is pretty close to team 6. I like Caff more than Mixon but Thomas more than Fitz Team 5 is clearly my favorite. Starters across the board that I like although Luck scares me some, Alex Smith should fill in fine Team 6 This one is fine. Don't like the RB duo as much as team 5 but there is a better 1-2 at WR here. Crabtree v Demaryius is the real difference maker for me as to why I like 5 more Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what strategy produces the best teams. RB+RB at pick 11 & 14 or just going BPA throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what strategy produces the best teams. RB+RB at pick 11 & 14 or just going BPA throughout. I am picking at 11 too and it just seems like RB-RB is the way to go. If you get just 1 or God forbid 0 you’re gonna be hurting so badly because round 3&4 is crap for RBs so you either have to reach or wait a long time again for round 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: I am picking at 11 too and it just seems like RB-RB is the way to go. If you get just 1 or God forbid 0 you’re gonna be hurting so badly because round 3&4 is crap for RBs so you either have to reach or wait a long time again for round 5 Well, I'm in a little different situation. We start 2 RB and 3 WR with no flex. So the RB spot isn't as barren unless people draft for depth and neglect other spots. I wouldn't complain if I went OBJ and then, say, Fournette, Cook or CMac. Think I could live with Lamar Miller or Alex Collins as RB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Well, I'm in a little different situation. We start 2 RB and 3 WR with no flex. So the RB spot isn't as barren unless people draft for depth and neglect other spots. I wouldn't complain if I went OBJ and then, say, Fournette, Cook or CMac. Think I could live with Lamar Miller or Alex Collins as RB2. I'm at 11 too Take the best players but you really need to come out with at least 1 RB. I feel like I can get a decent #2 RB at that 3/4 turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: I'm at 11 too Take the best players but you really need to come out with at least 1 RB. I feel like I can get a decent #2 RB at that 3/4 turn. Yeah. I'm just debating if having two RB1 caliber guys starting at 11 and 14 is smarter than taking a WR there. Is the gap between 1st and early 2nd round WRs compared to 3/4 bigger than the gap between the RBs. I kinda feel it is in regards to the RBs. I'd probably rather have Doug Baldwin as WR1 than Alex Collins as RB2. Especially if I can get my hands on a quality TE (Olsen, Graham, Engram). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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