packfanfb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, St Vince said: I think we should stop dreaming about Mack in GB. This team is not deep enough to part with the assets to land him. I would flip Denver a 3rd for Ray instead, he looks great this preseason. They drafted Chubb and didn't pick up his option so Denver may be looking to moved on from him. With Gilbert that would give you 4 legit pass rushers. We need those high picks for Edge and RT, our OL depth is horrendous, Spriggs is a bust and will get Rodgers killed, and Madison is in limbo. Guy may never play a down in the NFL. We need to use that draft capital to fix the OL. Landing Mack would plug one hole but open a floodgate in other areas. It's not a dream if it actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I'm definitely in the re-sign Matthews for two years, draft edge and OT with our two first round picks to have Matthews, Perry, first round pass rusher, youth at OL and millions in cap space club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: I'm definitely in the re-sign Matthews for two years, draft edge and OT with our two first round picks to have Matthews, Perry, first round pass rusher, youth at OL and millions in cap space club. Matthews won't be a starter next year IMO, borderline already this year with how poor his between the tackles run defense and edge setting is. I find it hard he's going to agree to a deal that he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 PR - you didn't enjoy this one from Clay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 clay doesn't play like that consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: PR - you didn't enjoy this one from Clay ? I said between the tackles and edge setting, made a clear emphasis to mention those because Clay has always been a plus player to the boundaries. He can't hold an edge though and it's gotten worse with age. He's an attacker, upfield player, watch Perry, he can sit there and anchor on that edge, if Clay tries that he gets blown out of the hole. He has to shoot a gap, and if he shoots wrong all he does is create a hole. If I'm a DC this is his last year as a starter, his next contract I'm offering him top rush specialist money, those guys who play 15-20 plays a game purely to get the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Got it thx Is it just age or the result of no longer having Dr. Mike Neal providing services ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Got it thx Is it just age or the result of no longer having Dr. Mike Neal providing services ? Setting an edge was never really Clay's game. I felt like having guys like Pickett, Raji, Woodson, Bishop/Hawk compensated a bit and let him be more aggressive without the consequences. Lately I just feel it was our lack of depth, we didn't have Peppers, Neal, Jones to come off the bench and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 If Clay is resigned he needs to be kicked inside because he can't get home on the edge anymore. He and Martinez would make a good inside tandem and they can just let Burks play on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, St Vince said: If Clay is resigned he needs to be kicked inside because he can't get home on the edge anymore. He and Martinez would make a good inside tandem and they can just let Burks play on passing downs. There's no reason to believe Clay can't be an effective pass rusher if you limit the miles he takes on per game. If you just want him as an ILB only, absolutely no sense in re-signing him, just get Ryan back on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Clay inside, Perry and first round draft pick. That's a pass rush I'd be more than thrilled with. Clay has 3 more years of solid to even pro bowl level play if he moves inside and on plays on the edge sparingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 how much do we think clay would want to re-sign for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, persiandud said: how much do we think clay would want to re-sign for? he said he wants the bag yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: he said he wants the bag yesterday oof. he's likely on the way out then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I just wanted to point out that the Raiders Mack thread is currently at 9 pages, the Bears 4, and the Jets 3. Y'all crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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