RaidersAreOne Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 This was the biggest turning point in the Raiders/Browns game. Most people, myself included, think the Browns got completely screwed on this particular play when they reversed the original call of it being a first down. I didn't think there was enough proof to overturn it. However after looking at things a little further, the refs may have got the call right here. It's so really hard to tell though. Do you think he was short? Not trying to rub anything in or justify us winning, I am genuinely curious what people think of this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Either way, against any other team, there's "not enough evidence to overturn" a call like that. i also don't think he was short. That picture doesn't really do it justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Also did Walt Coleman draw that blue line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I thought not calling a fumble on the Carr sack was an even worse call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 They keep saying his elbow was down, but it was his wrist that hit first, which would be the dead ball spot. I’m still not sure about having enough evidence, but it’s not as egregious as people are saying. Both the Carr fumble and Lynch run being blown dead were way worse calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Livewire said: I thought not calling a fumble on the Carr sack was an even worse call. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RaidersAreOne said: I agree. TBF, the refs were terrible from start to finish. From the Arden Key roughing, to blowing the play dead on Lynch, to the Carr fumble etc etc. First half they hated the Raiders and 2nd half they hated the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 IDGAF... We got screwed out of a TD by them blowing the Lynch run dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp0k2 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Totty said: IDGAF... We got screwed out of a TD by them blowing the Lynch run dead. There were four Browns right there that quit on the whistle, he wasn't going to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, pnies20 said: Either way, against any other team, there's "not enough evidence to overturn" a call like that. i also don't think he was short. That picture doesn't really do it justice. yea, concrete things like photo evidence doesnt do it justice. Much better to rely on "man, that call sucked". and why would the refs/nfl have something against the browns for there to be this conspiracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, cp0k2 said: There were four Browns right there that quit on the whistle, he wasn't going to score. So similar to the raider players that quit after they blew the ball dead after Carr fumbled? No guarantees of TDs on either play, but both had chances and both were terrible calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp0k2 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, daineraider said: So similar to the raider players that quit after they blew the ball dead after Carr fumbled? No guarantees of TDs on either play, but both had chances and both were terrible calls. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Remember at the end of the game when one of the announcers said he thought the officials did a great job today, after criticizing half their calls? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 No. It was not the right call IMO. I don't like the refs changing calls without evidence and I think they do a good job of upstanding of that rule (one way or the other---and of the very few things that I think they DO handle correctly most of the time). 17 minutes ago, cp0k2 said: There were four Browns right there that quit on the whistle, he wasn't going to score. I may have go back and look at the play, but while you may or may not be right in this, It sure looked like he was off to the races to me at first glance. But again I have to go back and look at it because my opinion is based on realtime and the angles at that particular time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, RaidersAreOne said: This was the biggest turning point in the Raiders/Browns game. Most people, myself included, think the Browns got completely screwed on this particular play when they reversed the original call of it being a first down. I didn't think there was enough proof to overturn it. However after looking at things a little further, the refs may have got the call right here. It's so really hard to tell though. Do you think he was short? Not trying to rub anything in or justify us winning, I am genuinely curious what people think of this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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