MacReady Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, SSG said: Is this ridiculous witch hunt going to ignore that he was 3rd in MVP voting in 2016? That he was leading the league in TD passes last year before his injury? I mean that's pretty good for a guy who's supposedly hurting his team because he's ruined... Aaron Rodgers was not MVP material in 2016. He had a bad game against the Vikings in week 2. He beat up on the Lions in week 3. He had a bad game against the Giants in week 4. He had a bad game against the Cowboys in week 5. He beat up on the Bears and Falcons in weeks 6 and 7. He had a dreadful game against the Titans that kickstarted the Titans running away with it. He did the same thing in 2016 he's been doing now. His stupid BS kept us out of games early in the season. It's been a trend with him since 2015. He starts so damn slowly hoping that he'll have 20 yards per attempt and uphold his God image until he realizes he can't do that and we need him to be just a QB who does his damn job. 2017 was no different. His QB rating over the first three games was well below 100. Then he gets to do what he wants against the bad Bears and Cowboys defenses to get 7 touchdowns over two games and suddenly he's God again. How many times do we have to start with a 14, 21 or higher deficit because Rodgers won't move the ball and instead take sacks in the first half before people understand what his schtick is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Aaron Rodgers was not MVP material in 2016. He had a bad game against the Vikings in week 2. He beat up on the Lions in week 3. He had a bad game against the Giants in week 4. He had a bad game against the Cowboys in week 5. He beat up on the Bears and Falcons in weeks 6 and 7. He had a dreadful game against the Titans that kickstarted the Titans running away with it. He did the same thing in 2016 he's been doing now. His stupid BS kept us out of games early in the season. It's been a trend with him since 2015. He starts so damn slowly hoping that he'll have 20 yards per attempt and uphold his God image until he realizes he can't do that and we need him to be just a QB who does his damn job. 2017 was no different. His QB rating over the first three games was well below 100. Then he gets to do what he wants against the bad Bears and Cowboys defenses to get 7 touchdowns over two games and suddenly he's God again. How many times do we have to start with a 14, 21 or higher deficit because Rodgers won't move the ball and instead take sacks in the first half before people understand what his schtick is? The pattern is there. People refuse to see it for the same reason they refused to acknowledge Favre's shortcomings as well. Rodgers had a lot of historic seasons earlier and he's been riding that wave for 3 years now. He needs to pick it up otherwise he's just stealing from the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It's fair to criticize Rodgers, but when you pathologize him to the degree of "He starts so damn slowly hoping that he'll have 20 yards per attempt and uphold his God image" you lose credibility. He may have an ego, but he's not evil. He's out there trying to win football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: He's been playing like this and doing this since 2015. People just refuse to believe it. Losing Jordy in 2015 ruined him. Look at his career before 2015. Then look at it starting in 2015. http://www.nfl.com/player/aaronrodgers/2506363/profile If anything, having Jordy ruined him, so I think you need to chill on your "facts" People forget there are progressions the QB goes through. They don't just drop back and search frantically. Without knowing the timing of those progressions, it's hard to tell what that play reveals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Saw this tweet and felt it needed to be shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 This is why this season is so frustrating. Our defense is GOOD. You can SEE it. The statistics back it up. Our offense and special teams are letting our defense down in major ways. We've got a shot this year, and that shot goes up exponentially if we add a pass rusher - somehow, anyhow - and our offense starts picking it up early in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Lodestar said: It's fair to criticize Rodgers, but when you pathologize him to the degree of "He starts so damn slowly hoping that he'll have 20 yards per attempt and uphold his God image" you lose credibility. He may have an ego, but he's not evil. He's out there trying to win football games. It's called hyperbole. He does start slowly because he looks for more than what he needs. That's a fact. If you can't handle a little hyperbole, that's your own damn fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If our offense gets hot, we will do very well. That is really what the team needs. With the youth on defense, it will only get better with more experience as long as they can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Saw this tweet and felt it needed to be shared. Coaching matters. That Pettine is able to generate so much pressure with (A) Wilkerson being gone for more than half the season and (B) getting so little contribution from the OLBers (primarily Clay and Perry) is truly an accomplishment. If the Pack moves on from McCarthy, I really hope Pettine is strongly considered to remain as the DC. He had been impressive. This statistic also shows just how pathetic Dom's D was with many of the same players applying far less pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Our secondary has to be responsible for nearly half of those pressures. I've seen more coverage sacks this year than than last 2 combined. Pettine is a big part of that, but the level of talent from this year to last isn't even comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Saw this tweet and felt it needed to be shared. Imagine if we ever played with a lead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Saw this tweet and felt it needed to be shared. Feel like this would be more accurate if broken down by game. I feel like it would be hills and valleys for GB while a team like LA may be more steady. The Packers got good pressure against Cousins in Week 2 and obviously against the Bills in Week 4 where we had 7 sacks or whatever. Week 3 against Smith I'm not sure we even touched him more than a few times and same with Stafford Week 5. The Bears' game was probably in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: It's called hyperbole. He does start slowly because he looks for more than what he needs. That's a fact. If you can't handle a little hyperbole, that's your own damn fault. It probably has some to do with little to no preseason action as well. I agree he starts slows, just not sure it's for the reasons that you are ascribing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Feel like this would be more accurate if broken down by game. I feel like it would be hills and valleys for GB while a team like LA may be more steady. The Packers got good pressure against Cousins in Week 2 and obviously against the Bills in Week 4 where we had 7 sacks or whatever. Week 3 against Smith I'm not sure we even touched him more than a few times and same with Stafford Week 5. The Bears' game was probably in between. Data via PFF - They track pressure a little bit differently than ESPN but it gives you an idea if nothing else. Pack is the 7th best graded Pass Rush unit - 3rd best in Coverage - 6th best overall. This defense has made a big jump thus far. Week 1 - 14 pressures (Clark/Daniels/Perry -3; Brice/JJ/Martinez/Mo/Gilbert) - 46 Dropbacks - 30.4% pressure rate Week 2 - 22 pressures (Daniels -3 ; Martinez - 2; JJ/Lowry/Clark/Mo/Whitehead/CMIII) - 54 Dropbacks - 40.7% pressure rate Week 3 - 11 pressures (Blake - 2; MO/Clay/Daniels/Lowry/Whitehead - 1) - 29 Dropbacks - 37.9% pressure rate Week 4 - 27 pressures (Lowry/Clark - 4; Gilbert/Fackrell/Whitehead/Perry - 3; Martinez - 2; Burks/Jaire/Morrison/Daniels/Clay - 1) 45 Dropbacks - 60% pressure rate Week 5 - 21 pressures (Daniels - 4; Matthews/Lowry - 2; Clark/Burks - 1) -34 Dropbacks - 60% pressure rate TOTAL = 95 pressures out of 208 dropbacks = 45.7% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, cannondale said: Even with the Wilkerson injury, Adams can't get on the field. What the hell ? He might not be the player we all hoped he'd be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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