ThatJaxxenGuy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 We should be throwing a boat load of money at Bobby Wagner on a three year deal, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: We should be throwing a boat load of money at Bobby Wagner on a three year deal, imo i would love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 10 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: i would love that So would our compensatory obsessed FO so it's not out of the realm of possibility 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Ray Reed said: So would our compensatory obsessed FO so it's not out of the realm of possibility 😋 "Sorry Ravens fans, Bobby Wagner wants $20M and due to our cap situation, we only have $4.99 available after our draft signings so darn...." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Interesting impact of the Russell Wilson deal - Denver is one of our unique opponents relative to AFCN (due to finishing 4th in their division). One would assume in a vacuum that this move makes that particular game more difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltimoreRebel Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sp6488 said: Interesting impact of the Russell Wilson deal - Denver is one of our unique opponents relative to AFCN (due to finishing 4th in their division). One would assume in a vacuum that this move makes that particular game more difficult We will see what happens, honestly. I really don't fear Wilson that much. Edited March 9, 2022 by baltimoreRebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, baltimoreRebel said: We will see what happens, honestly. I really don't fear Wilson that much. Everything is relative. The Russell Wilson Broncos are some amount more concerning as an opponent than the Drew Lock Broncos for 2022. My point wasn't that this is somehow a major impact on the Ravens or something we should be overly concerned about, just that it's a meaningful change in the roster construction of one of our unique opponents, which is material of an impactful to the AFCN race than changes with out common opponents. Edited March 9, 2022 by sp6488 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, baltimoreRebel said: We will see what happens, honestly. I really don't fear Wilson that much. Wilson is the best QB in the NFL against the blitz/cover 0. Now, if Wink was DC I would say we're going to get cooked, but it remains to be seen how our scheme is going to adjust. Wilson struggles the most against teams that can pressure with 4, particularly up the middle. Can we do that? Not with our current lineup, but we'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 You’re telling me with our need at pass rusher and our plethora of picks this year we couldn’t have swung the Bears a 2nd and 4th for Mack? This FO values day 2 draft picks too high. And if it’s a cap issue that stopped our interest then we aren’t managing the cap well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Ray Reed said: You’re telling me with our need at pass rusher and our plethora of picks this year we couldn’t have swung the Bears a 2nd and 4th for Mack? This FO values day 2 draft picks too high. And if it’s a cap issue that stopped our interest then we aren’t managing the cap well enough. Meh. Didn’t look up the numbers but I don’t think he’s been the player he once was. I know he’s been on a not great team but I don’t feel like he’ll regain his Raider dominance. Matched with that cap number I’d pass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boodgyman5220 said: Meh. Didn’t look up the numbers but I don’t think he’s been the player he once was. I know he’s been on a not great team but I don’t feel like he’ll regain his Raider dominance. Matched with that cap number I’d pass too. Thought I read something about the Bears eating $24mil but I could def be wrong I only saw it in passing on twitter. And a guy with supreme talent like Mack is a guy I think you take a chance on getting “right” within your system/culture...sorta like OBJ from CLE -> LA or Honey Badger HOU -> KC. Plus it seems like we often times take guys who are coming off down years like that but at a much older age...Weddle and Campbell were coming off arguable career worst years and well into their 30s when we signed them. Idk I feel like just once do the whole reclamation project thing with an upper echelon guy like other teams seem to do Edited March 11, 2022 by Ray Reed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: Thought I read something about the Bears eating $24mil but I could def be wrong I only saw it in passing on twitter. And a guy with supreme talent like Mack is a guy I think you take a chance on getting “right” within your system/culture...sorta like OBJ from CLE -> LA or Honey Badger HOU -> KC. Plus it seems like we often times take guys who are coming off down years like that but at a much older age...Weddle and Campbell were coming off arguable career worst years and well into their 30s when we signed them. Idk I feel like just once do the whole reclamation project thing with an upper echelon guy like other teams seem to do If he were maybe a free agent without the massive cap number, I would agree with you. We definitely have a history of signing veterans to reasonable contracts, then see those vets outplay the contracts. That was not the case here. But with a potentially looming Lamar contract, the draft capital becomes even more important. I’m interested to see how Lamar plays this season with what I would consider the best group of offensive weapons we have ever had. If he isn’t one of the best qbs in the league, regaining his mvp form, I could see us playing him on the tag for a year or even two and not crippling our cap space for the foreseeable future if he turns out to not be the guy.(and I’m hoping that he proves to be the guy) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Boodgyman5220 said: If he were maybe a free agent without the massive cap number, I would agree with you. We definitely have a history of signing veterans to reasonable contracts, then see those vets outplay the contracts. That was not the case here. But with a potentially looming Lamar contract, the draft capital becomes even more important. I’m interested to see how Lamar plays this season with what I would consider the best group of offensive weapons we have ever had. If he isn’t one of the best qbs in the league, regaining his mvp form, I could see us playing him on the tag for a year or even two and not crippling our cap space for the foreseeable future if he turns out to not be the guy.(and I’m hoping that he proves to be the guy) Agreed on all accounts. As long as the FO upgrades this OL you can’t really ask for a much better supporting cast - top 2 TE, 2 very good RBs (hoping they come back from injury at least 80% of themselves this year), and 2 1st round picks at WR (i’ve lost my luster for Hollywood a bit but the talent is definitely there between he and Bateman). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ray Reed said: Thought I read something about the Bears eating $24mil but I could def be wrong I only saw it in passing on twitter. And a guy with supreme talent like Mack is a guy I think you take a chance on getting “right” within your system/culture...sorta like OBJ from CLE -> LA or Honey Badger HOU -> KC. Plus it seems like we often times take guys who are coming off down years like that but at a much older age...Weddle and Campbell were coming off arguable career worst years and well into their 30s when we signed them. Idk I feel like just once do the whole reclamation project thing with an upper echelon guy like other teams seem to do https://overthecap.com/bears-and-chargers-discussing-trade-of-khalil-mack/ Quote If the Chargers make this trade they would get Mack on the salary cap for $17.75M in 2022, $22.9M in 2023, and $23.25 million in 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Boodgyman5220 said: If he were maybe a free agent without the massive cap number, I would agree with you. We definitely have a history of signing veterans to reasonable contracts, then see those vets outplay the contracts. That was not the case here. But with a potentially looming Lamar contract, the draft capital becomes even more important. I’m interested to see how Lamar plays this season with what I would consider the best group of offensive weapons we have ever had. If he isn’t one of the best qbs in the league, regaining his mvp form, I could see us playing him on the tag for a year or even two and not crippling our cap space for the foreseeable future if he turns out to not be the guy.(and I’m hoping that he proves to be the guy) I can definitely see us in on one of the cap cuts. Bobby Wagner sticks out as he’s made a bunch of money. Though I could see a bynes or forte reunion. I’m not sure I see the fit with Landon Collins as it seems like he fits the roll that chick Clarke plays. I could see a fit with van noy as a tyus bowser light until he returns from his Achilles injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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