squire12 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, Malfatron said: This doesn't make sense. if dome is mafia, then means gopher is civ. If gopher is civ, that means I'm cleared (For those who missed it, I'm the dude who can pardon, and that's what gopher's result returned as)/ if you know this, how could you think I am mafia. If we were smart, @Dome would be the one we lynch. If gopher is mafia, he has to be the weakest one. Dome could be the guy with the unblockable hit, and a lynch goes before the hit. 3 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Can someone link me to posts where Gopher outright stated that Malf was the pardoner And can someone link me to posts where Malf outright confirms? @Tk3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 21 hours ago, gopherwrestler said: Pardon me, but I would like to know why he even moved his vote off me in the first place, and now instantly come back to me.... @Tk3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Can someone link me to posts where Gopher outright stated that Malf was the pardoner And can someone link me to posts where Malf outright confirms? He hints at it - quoting Malf and saying "pardon me". Malf confirmed it a couple pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 another possibility is that gopher breadcrumbed to me in order to buddy me. because my role sucks, so they werent going to kill me with that result so what else could mafia use that info for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You just recited everything I pointed out earlier. I always attempt to pressure people. Why does it matter? Why did you bail. You thought it was a good lynch when you started it. 35 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: Yet you all are voting me Your counter claim is just as believable as dome's, I just dont see any reason why dome would make this play when they did. Now d3, sure but not d2 19 minutes ago, Malfatron said: I would absolutely run this gambit as mafia. As would I, only problem is to make the move d2 with no pressure on you is risky and taking an unnecessary risk that that they really could have used to solidly the win if they waited to d3. Gopher, Matts, and squire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: He hints at it - quoting Malf and saying "pardon me". Malf confirmed it a couple pages back. The problem is, either red and green investigators could know Malf's role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Just now, Tk3 said: The problem is, either red and green investigators could know Malf's role. it's a null tell until someone dies and the entire chain is confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Malfatron said: another possibility is that gopher breadcrumbed to me in order to buddy me. because my role sucks, so they werent going to kill me with that result so what else could mafia use that info for? Dropping that breadcrumb to me is more of a mafia play then civ play. If you are the investigator you wanna stay hidden and his breadcrumb was pretty obvious. It would have resulted in his death most likely via a hit if he was really the investigator. Playing that careless is not a civ play it's more mafia then anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said: As would I, only problem is to make the move d2 with no pressure on you is risky and taking an unnecessary risk that that they really could have used to solidly the win if they waited to d3. preemptive strike. gopher voted dome at end of night 1. when dome investigated gopher and saw that he was the investigator, mafia probably thought gopher invested dome. dome decided to claim first, because it would look super bad for gopher if gopher came back with a guilty on dome from night 1dome-1: gopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tk3 said: The problem is, either red and green investigators could know Malf's role. obviously, but read day 2 again gophers thing felt natural. as i mentioned before, i bet mafia thought gopher investigated dome as got a guilty. so they came up with thus preemptive scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Malfatron said: another possibility is that gopher breadcrumbed to me in order to buddy me. because my role sucks, so they werent going to kill me with that result so what else could mafia use that info for? Lol to absolutely ruin you role. 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: preemptive strike. gopher voted dome at end of night 1. when dome investigated gopher and saw that he was the investigator, mafia probably thought gopher invested dome. dome decided to claim first, because it would look super bad for gopher if gopher came back with a guilty on dome from night 1dome-1: gopher you're worse than me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: preemptive strike. gopher voted dome at end of night 1. when dome investigated gopher and saw that he was the investigator, mafia probably thought gopher invested dome. dome decided to claim first, because it would look super bad for gopher if gopher came back with a guilty on dome from night 1dome-1: gopher Ir very well could have, but Gopher investing you over a few of the others also is why I rbink gopher is the one lying. Why not invest raves (late switch to save kotn), kotn (got saved along with other suspicious activity during the day), me, Matts (started the orca train and bailed), etc. Investing you would make since for mafia, not for a town investigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 22 hours ago, Dome said: orca VC: Pickle rick-3: squire, malf, tk3 gopher-3: orca, whicker, pickle rick kotn-: raves, bcb, orca-3: kotn, matts dome dome-1: gopher 10 minutes This was right before Orca and PR flipped. Gopher was in danger last night. Is that really the person Dome would set up as the fall guy if he were going to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said: Ir very well could have, but Gopher investing you over a few of the others also is why I rbink gopher is the one lying. Why not invest raves (late switch to save kotn), kotn (got saved along with other suspicious activity during the day), me, Matts (started the orca train and bailed), etc. Investing you would make since for mafia, not for a town investigator. I agree with this logic. Mafia would be power hunting. Why not check in on Malf. Civ would (should) be trying to glean additional information from the prior night's vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Gopher was in danger last night. Is that really the person Dome would set up as the fall guy if he were going to do it? when the result came back that gopher was investigator, why not pull a preemptive strike, especially if there was a very good chance that gopher investigated dome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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