beardown3231 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 RT @ChiSportUpdates: "I love Chicago. Chicago will always be home. I love Bears fans. I love the city. I will always be a Bear. One day I will probably retire a Bear." - Kicker Robbie Gould on the Prostyle Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: RT @ChiSportUpdates: "I love Chicago. Chicago will always be home. I love Bears fans. I love the city. I will always be a Bear. One day I will probably retire a Bear." - Kicker Robbie Gould on the Prostyle Podcast This is going to boil down to how much money he wants and how much we are willing to give him. I'm hoping he'll take less in year 1 (to off-set Parkey) and more in years 2+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: The Cap Report 2019: 20.2 million 2020: 50 million [Projected 200 Million Cap] *Could be higher with new CBA 2019 Obviously things are tight. The Bears can get to 30 million [Sims/Acho] pretty easily, but after that there are no obvious deletions that save the Bears money. The Parkey situation is probably going to cost them an additional 1.1 million. The Bears are going to have to be very conservative this offseason in terms of money spent. The conservative approach is going to be further compounded by the lack of draft picks who come with cheap rookie contracts. The Bears obviously need to add depth in a number of spots and deal with starters at RT, S and NB, but a limited draft pool does not give them guaranteed cost controlled replacements. There are going to be some young guys [also read that as cheap] like Coward and Bush that are going to get legit chances to start for the Bears. The real issue is pushing money into 2020, which could be the most critical cap year the Bears have had in years. 2020 This year is a huge year. Probably the most critical cap year the Bears have faced since the 2006 Super Bowl, and even that won't really compare. Everything in 2020 is further screwed up by the fact that there will be a CBA negotiation and we have no idea what impact that will have on the cap in 2021. The last time the CBA was up 2010 this happened, 2009: 123 million 2010: Uncapped 2011: 120 million There was actually a reduction in the cap the year after the new CBA went into effect. The Bears will not know how much money can be pushed into 2021. The list of players is intimidating Cody Whitehair [Free Agent] Danny Trevathan [Free Agent] Jordan Howard [No chance he is back] RRH [RFA: 4 million] Leonard Floyd [5th year option 8 million cap bump] Mitch Trubisky [5th year option needs to be picked up which could really crush 2021] Eddie Jackson [Extension eligible] Tarik Cohen [Extension eligible] What needs to happen 1. Get extensions done with Floyd, who we do not want to pay the 5th year option money to, and with Whitehair, who we can use his final year at 1.3 million to spread out the cap hits. 2. Push as little money as possible into 2020. 3. Sign a ton of 1 year deals to maximize 2020 financial flexibility. 4. Cross your fingers the cap gets a healthy boost again next year and that the CBA negotiations do not drag on. Yet everyone in media thinks we can and should sign Gould. A no brainer they say. They clearly haven’t done the math. Unless Gould is going to give a huge hometown discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 SF fans seem to think Gould might get franchise tagged, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hoge and Jahns both said that Gould will take a discount to come back to Chicago, perhaps even a big one. His wife, 2 boys, and new baby did not move to SF and he has been commuting back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, WindyCity said: Hoge and Jahns both said that Gould will take a discount to come back to Chicago, perhaps even a big one. His wife, 2 boys, and new baby did not move to SF and he has been commuting back and forth. Lay out a contract for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, G08 said: Lay out a contract for me. 2 years 5 million/4 guaranteed Cap hits of 2 then 3 million. The guarantee means he will be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, WindyCity said: 2 years 5 million/4 guaranteed Cap hits of 2 then 3 million. The guarantee means he will be here. What could he get else where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dll2000 said: What could he get else where? 2 6-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Yeah I think SF has to franchise him. Otherwise we have a good chance to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, TankWilliams said: SF fans seem to think Gould might get franchise tagged, anyway. How often are kickers franchised, especially 36 year old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I like Cole Tracy in the 7th round fellas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Massie replacements I would look at RFA George Fant [Seattle] -Has started at LT, is a former starting LT for them that was coming back from a knee injury this year, he played big package TE for them this season. He has the LT experience that is valuable and is more athletic than Massie for screens and jet sweeps. LaAdrian Waddle [New England] -Has started at LT and RT for the Patriots and would be an ideal player to come in and compete with Coward and possibly backup both spots. Jake Fisher [Cincinnati] -He is a former 2nd round pick who has never really gotten his career started, but he is a plus athlete with experience at both OT spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Massie replacements I would look at RFA George Fant [Seattle] -Has started at LT, is a former starting LT for them that was coming back from a knee injury this year, he played big package TE for them this season. He has the LT experience that is valuable and is more athletic than Massie for screens and jet sweeps. LaAdrian Waddle [New England] -Has started at LT and RT for the Patriots and would be an ideal player to come in and compete with Coward and possibly backup both spots. Jake Fisher [Cincinnati] -He is a former 2nd round pick who has never really gotten his career started, but he is a plus athlete with experience at both OT spots. You have to be leery of NE OL. They seem to have uncanny magic ability to make any OL good when there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, topwop1 said: How often are kickers franchised, especially 36 year old ones? Well, if you don't have another player worth franchise tagging (check), have a kicker who has only missed 3 kicks in 2 seasons (check), and factoring in the fact that Kickers can play at a high level even into their 40's, I don't think its that outlandish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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