NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/28/2021 at 4:06 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: Agree also His TFL and sack production both dropped and we went from having one of the best run defenses in the league in 2019 to one of the worst in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I'd think you'd play Crosby at the LEO defensive end spot and Yannick at the SLB spot from a 2 point stance with Ferrell playing the big edge role. Nah, that doesn’t suit Ngakoue, he’s an explosive pass rusher and you’d want to keep him away from TEs. You don’t pay Ngakoue to be thinking about taking on lead blockers. Get him upfield wreaking havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, NYRaider said: His TFL and sack production both dropped and we went from having one of the best run defenses in the league in 2019 to one of the worst in 2020. What has sack production got to do with the run defense? You keep mentioning sacks when we all know that Hankins is a run defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Dessie said: Nah, that doesn’t suit Ngakoue, he’s an explosive pass rusher and you’d want to keep him away from TEs. You don’t pay Ngakoue to be thinking about taking on lead blockers. Get him upfield wreaking havoc. Yannick played as a 3-4 OLB in Baltimore last season and Crosby has never played in a LB/two point stance type of role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Just now, Dessie said: What has sack production got to do with the run defense? You keep mentioning sacks when we all know that Hankins is a run defender. So then why did his TFL drop off from 7 to 1 last season as our run defense dropped off from one of the best in the league to one of the worst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Yannick played as a 3-4 OLB in Baltimore last season and Crosby has never played in a LB/two point stance type of role. How did that work out for Ngakoue in Baltimore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: So then why did his TFL drop off from 7 to 1 last season as our run defense dropped off from one of the best in the league to one of the worst? The question was why do you keep mentioning sacks when it was the run defense that was being discussed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Just now, Dessie said: How did that work out for Ngakoue in Baltimore? He finished with 8 sacks on the season but as I said I think it's a pretty mute point. We'll likely have 2 LB's on the field the majority of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Dessie said: The question was why do you keep mentioning sacks when it was the run defense that was being discussed? I said Hankins fell off between 2019 and 2020 as evident by his drop in production across the board as well as our run defense falling off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I said Hankins fell off between 2019 and 2020 as evident by his drop in production across the board as well as our run defense falling off. Nothing then as I thought. Edited May 31, 2021 by Dessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I said Hankins fell off between 2019 and 2020 as evident by his drop in production across the board as well as our run defense falling off. Hard to tell. Hall was a better run defender than Collins or Hurst. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw a lot more double teams in 2020 when the DT next to him was easily handled by a single blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He finished with 8 sacks on the season but as I said I think it's a pretty mute point. We'll likely have 2 LB's on the field the majority of the time. He had 3 sacks for Baltimore and barely played in the playoff game v the Bills, wasn’t a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dessie said: Nothing then as I thought. So his TFL loss production falling off of a cliff and our run defense legitimately going from top 10 to bottom 5 doesn't mean anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Hard to tell. Hall was a better run defender than Collins or Hurst. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw a lot more double teams in 2020 when the DT next to him was easily handled by a single blocker. And the DT's we added this off-season aren't known to be great run defenders either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dessie said: He had 3 sacks for Baltimore and barely played in the playoff game v the Bills, wasn’t a good fit. I don't think it's ideal to have Crosby or Yannick playing SLB unless it's more of a 3-4 look where they're essentially a DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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