Gopackgonerd Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I don't know. Randall played well last year. 4 Picks. 9 PBUs I wish I could give you Kizer's Turnover/TD ratio from last year, but I can't divide by zero. Almost 3:1 as a rook though, which is a truly amazing record of futility. And we started Brice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: And we started Brice But Palmy said!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: I don't know. Randall played well last year. 4 Picks. 9 PBUs I wish I could give you Kizer's Turnover/TD ratio from last year, but I can't divide by zero. Almost 3:1 as a rook though, which is a truly amazing record of futility. He can't tackle worth a damn, he's soft. I'm good with what we have now. Sure he can cover and get you a few picks, but he'll never be dependable. Kizer played on the worst team in NFL history and then played 2 games without practice reps where Rodgers was the starter. Remember Hundley's turnover fest in Minny after Rodgers went down? That's not a fair assessment of a QB. Also everyone had quit in that Detroit game around him. Look at Oakland, freaking Nathan Peterman is battling for a backup spot. Blake Bortles is a backup QB, the Jags replacement backup is Gardner Minshew. For someone who's usually pretty on the ball about the quality of the league you have a really unrealistic expectation of a backup QB. They aren't starting QBs for a reason.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, PACKRULE said: I would take Boyle of that trashbag any day who cares. Why people still talk about this guy in the NFL. Because he can play. There's way worse people in the NFL than Kaepernick. He's not malevolent. He's your average community college protester given a massive platform for reasons that I'm too cynical to get into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: And we started Brice Wouldn't write off Brice yet. Pretty clear this staff can't teach guys how to tackle, neither could the Dom staff. Brice as a wrap up tackler has some worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He can't tackle worth a damn, he's soft. Overrated attributes in safeties for 1500 Alex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He can't tackle worth a damn, he's soft. I'm good with what we have now. Sure he can cover and get you a few picks, but he'll never be dependable. Kizer played on the worst team in NFL history and then played 2 games without practice reps where Rodgers was the starter. Remember Hundley's turnover fest in Minny after Rodgers went down? That's not a fair assessment of a QB. Also everyone had quit in that Detroit game around him. Look at Oakland, freaking Nathan Peterman is battling for a backup spot. Blake Bortles is a backup QB, the Jags replacement backup is Gardner Minshew. For someone who's usually pretty on the ball about the quality of the league you have a really unrealistic expectation of a backup QB. They aren't starting QBs for a reason.... I'd love to see Randall's PFF tackling efficiency last year. He had stretch last year I saw where he hadn't missed any in a while. Peterman isn't actually going to beat out Glennon. Bortles isn't a poor backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He can't tackle worth a damn, he's soft. I'm good with what we have now. Sure he can cover and get you a few picks, but he'll never be dependable. Kizer played on the worst team in NFL history and then played 2 games without practice reps where Rodgers was the starter. Remember Hundley's turnover fest in Minny after Rodgers went down? That's not a fair assessment of a QB. Also everyone had quit in that Detroit game around him. Look at Oakland, freaking Nathan Peterman is battling for a backup spot. Blake Bortles is a backup QB, the Jags replacement backup is Gardner Minshew. For someone who's usually pretty on the ball about the quality of the league you have a really unrealistic expectation of a backup QB. They aren't starting QBs for a reason.... I don't need him to be Blake Bortles, I need him to get his turnover rate down to the very low bar that Bortles sets. He turns the ball over so much that it kills the team. You can make do with punting every other series and playing the field position game. Hell, we did it with Rodgers last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Wouldn't write off Brice yet. Pretty clear this staff can't teach guys how to tackle, neither could the Dom staff. Brice as a wrap up tackler has some worth. I'm not sure he did anything well last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: I don't need him to be Blake Bortles, I need him to get his turnover rate down to the very low bar that Bortles sets. He turns the ball over so much that it kills the team. You can make do with punting every other series and playing the field position game. Hell, we did it with Rodgers last year. We haven't seen him start a game as a Packer, I'm not using his Browns turnover rate to tell me what his Packers turnover rate would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: Overrated attributes in safeties for 1500 Alex! Then you should've loved HHCD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, PACKRULE said: Forgive me fuss but his protest got cops shot, he wore pig socks, a castro shirt and when the time came to vote he was to busy hmmm protesting. The manner in which he protested and his ignorance is the issue. Jenkins in Philly has done more good and more work than this clown has ever done. It's not worth the long argument and such he is getting exactly what he deserves. Snopes says he did wear pig socks. So? I've already said I don't agree with his form of protest. I can find nothing confirming that his protest got cops shot. Source? If he's an upgrade at QB, bring him in with a clause in his contract that voids it if he becomes a political nuisance. I'm sure there are all kinds of political views in a pro sports locker room. Right wing and left wing. Would you have boycotted all black athletes who joined the black Muslim movement? Lew Alcindor became Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Cassius Clay became Muhammed Ali. And on and on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norm said: Bortles isn't a poor backup he's not even THAT bad of a starter. I mean, he was bad, but not like all-time comically bad like Craig Krenzel or something Just now, Packerraymond said: We haven't seen him start a game as a Packer, I'm not using his Browns turnover rate to tell me what his Packers turnover rate would be. yes we did, week 17. 2 picks, 0 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 When Kap is 40, will people still waste their life comparing their team's backup QB to him? Lol guy is never playing football again, and why would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: We haven't seen him start a game as a Packer, I'm not using his Browns turnover rate to tell me what his Packers turnover rate would be. He didn't "start" so his int rate over his browns season going up doesn't count. If Rodgers gets hurt mid game, he can fill in however he wants, doesn't count, he didn't start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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