SweetFancyMoses Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 2:28 PM, Matts4313 said: How about Aikman, Werder and an agent? How about the fact the he is the second most individually (statistically) successful QB over their first 4 years? Thats according to virtually every analytical site. How about the fact the Romo, Witten and all his other teammates have said he is a great leader and a great QB? Here is the entire list of reasons not to pay Dak: The Dallas Cowboys franchise has not won a superbowl and how will we ever if we have a franchise QB on a franchise contract. Which is bogus and proven false. Romo would say Brandon Weeden has a great arm, and mobility. He's just a nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, SweetFancyMoses said: Romo would say Brandon Weeden has a great arm, and mobility. He's just a nice guy. Exactly. Most of what these guys say carries exactly zero weight It's amazing that most football fans can't spot "locker room speak" when it's right in front of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 So he caved. Like I said he would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, buddy_z34 said: So he caved. Like I said he would. Who caved? Everyone is attempting to mold this signing into their own narrative. Quote Dak Prescott Just Called Jerry Jones' Bluff, Because He Holds All the Cards ------------------------------------------------------ There's only one way out of this bad poker hand for Jones: He can swallow some pride and fold. There are still a few weeks left in the franchise tag negotiation window, which closes on July 15. If he signs Prescott to a contract similar in size and shape to the Wentz deal now, he can beat Mahomes/Watson to the punch, finagle the cap space prorations to improve the bottom line over the next few years and climb out of what threatens to become a very expensive pay-as-you-go arrangement. All it would take is a little common sense and a little less stubbornness. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2897199-dak-prescott-just-called-jerry-jones-bluff-because-he-holds-all-the-cards?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x10 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Not sure how to embed youtube vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzS3mKQzZ4&feature=share Edited June 24, 2020 by 5x10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Who caved? Everyone is attempting to mold this signing into their own narrative. Why would they pay long term with the distinct possibility the cap will go down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, SweetFancyMoses said: Why would they pay long term with the distinct possibility the cap will go down? Jerry got to keep 100 Million in his bank account vs writing it to Dak and/or having to place it in escrow (guaranteed money part) He gets to pay Dak by the week and the first check isn't due till Sept 15th Jerry won this. Big Time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, 5x10 said: Not sure how to embed youtube vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzS3mKQzZ4&feature=share Quote I think the discussion at @ 2:30 is flawed. Those percentages do not reflect ability to make the playoffs, they reflect the distribution of those categories in the NFL. Teams starting QBs on a rookie deal are more common than teams starting a QB on a top 10 deal, teams with a neither a starting QB on a rookie deal nor a QB with a top 10 QB deal are less common than either of the aforementioned groups, and teams that have both a starter on a rookie deal and another top 10 paid QB are very rare etc. The proper way to compare these is to look at the ratio of teams within each of these categories that make the playoffs. I covered this in a post not long ago. I'll paste the relevant table from that post below (this is since 2011): <5% cap (73) 5-10% cap (90) 10-15% cap (95) 15%+ cap (30) Made the playoffs 32.88% (24) 33.33% (30) 43.16% (41) 43.33% (13) Advanced to Divisional 16.44% (12) 22.22% (20) 32.63% (31) 30.00% (9) Advanced to Conference 9.59% (7) 11.11% (10) 14.74% (14) 16.67% (5) Advanced to SB 5.48% (4) 5.56% (5) 7.37% (7) 6.67% (2) Won the SB 2.74% (2) 3.33% (3) 4.21% (4) 0.00% (0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 hours ago, SweetFancyMoses said: Why would they pay long term with the distinct possibility the cap will go down? The caps not going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: The caps not going down. If stadiums are only allowed 25 to 50% capacity it will go down. TV ratings may go up because more people will be watching from home now but gate revenue, merchandise and food consumption will have an effect on gross revenue for teams and stadiums. It will go down a couple of million for the start of next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Who caved? Everyone is attempting to mold this signing into their own narrative. Dak caved into signing his tag. Both sides obviously wanted him to sign but Jerry and The Cowboys have won the battle thus far. Once they signed Dalton, Dak lost the leverage. Meaning his talk of not signing and holding out was just his bluff. Jerry called it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, buddy_z34 said: If stadiums are only allowed 25 to 50% capacity it will go down. TV ratings may go up because more people will be watching from home now but gate revenue, merchandise and food consumption will have an effect on gross revenue for teams and stadiums. It will go down a couple of million for the start of next season No it wont. NFLPA has to ratify the cap going down. It wont ever happen. It will stay stagnant. Also, you have to remember the players only get ~52% of the TV revenue. So there is a buffer. 20 minutes ago, buddy_z34 said: Dak caved into signing his tag. Both sides obviously wanted him to sign but Jerry and The Cowboys have won the battle thus far. Once they signed Dalton, Dak lost the leverage. Meaning his talk of not signing and holding out was just his bluff. Jerry called it Dak didnt cave into ish. He was always going to sign his tag. Who in their right mind ever thought he wouldnt? Dak still holds the majority of the leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: No it wont. NFLPA has to ratify the cap going down. It wont ever happen. It will stay stagnant. Also, you have to remember the players only get ~52% of the TV revenue. So there is a buffer. Dak didnt cave into ish. He was always going to sign his tag. Who in their right mind ever thought he wouldnt? Dak still holds the majority of the leverage. Dude or his agent said they would holdout. Signing his tender doesnt look like holding out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, buddy_z34 said: Dude or his agent said they would holdout. Signing his tender doesnt look like holding out to me. No he didnt? Source? Ive never read more than people stating that is an option of his. Also, signing his tag is CYA for camp/practice. It doesnt stop him from holding out. Edited June 24, 2020 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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