MWil23 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Friendly reminder, the OP says "2020 Draft". I'm choosing amnesia of anything before this year, save Joe Thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: @AkronsWitness I hate you for making me google all that nonsense. đ *added to the LGB greatest hits collection, which includes, "Just stop responding to DD! Everyone stop!!!"* 32 minutes ago, pnies20 said: Javon Kinlaw done for the week at the senior bowl. Tendinitis in his knee *adds Kinlaw as xer's mock draft 3rd round sleeper* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, MWil23 said: A guy I want to see us draft is Josh Jones, OT Houston. He's having a great Senior Bowl, only gave up 4 pressures and 1/2 sack all week, and he seems to have a great mentality: I REALLY hope that he falls to the 2nd and we can grab him, but after this week, he may shoot up the draft boards. I'd LOVE some type of bookend OT draft in Rounds 1/2, or even if we could get him and Simmons both. I am with you but considering you may have 7tackles taken in the first round the second round maybe extreme developmental tackles.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, mtmmike said: I am with you but considering you may have 7tackles taken in the first round the second round maybe extreme developmental tackles.  Yes, I was speaking strictly on a "if he falls" hypothetical basis. By all means I'm all for drafting BPA at 10, and if he/some other OT is that guy, I'm 100% for it. However, in a perfect world, I'd get both Simmons and Josh Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: @AkronsWitness I hate you for making me google all that nonsense. But what about Joe Thomas, Joe Haden, Kellen Winslow, Denzel Ward and Myles Garrett lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: But what about Joe Thomas, Joe Haden, Kellen Winslow, Denzel Ward and Myles Garrett lol *adds this conversation to the greatest hits collection as the hidden track at the end* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: But what about Joe Thomas, Joe Haden, Kellen Winslow, Denzel Ward and Myles Garrett lol What about them?  I never said you couldnât get good players there?  Youâre moving the goal posts here. Iâm not talking wild stuff here.  Teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, Pats, etc. (teams that have been competitive more or less year in year out for a long time) have done so without top 5-10 picks every year and have managed to find plenty of talent. The point that you seem to be missing entirely is itâs not one or two top 10 elite talents that form a successful team.  Itâs a franchise who can find talent that fits what they do and develop it. If all you can do is bat .500 (being generous) on top 5-10 picks, it really doesnât matter as youâll never be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What about them?  I never said you couldnât get good players there?  Youâre moving the goal posts here. Iâm not talking wild stuff here.  Teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, Pats, etc. (teams that have been competitive more or less year in year out for a long time) have done so without top 5-10 picks every year and have managed to find plenty of talent. The point that you seem to be missing entirely is itâs not one or two top 10 elite talents that form a successful team.  Itâs a franchise who can find talent that fits what they do and develop it. If all you can do is bat .500 (being generous) on top 5-10 picks, it really doesnât matter as youâll never be successful. Yeah, but what about Corbett? He was a second rounder, case in point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Friendly reminder, the OP says "2020 Draft". I'm choosing amnesia of anything before this year, save Joe Thomas. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, NudeTayne said: Yeah, but what about Corbett? He was a second rounder, case in point. Lol what case and what point đ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 @NudeTayne, I bet most of the other second rounders picked after him have done more đ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What about them?  I never said you couldnât get good players there?  Youâre moving the goal posts here. Iâm not talking wild stuff here.  Teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, Pats, etc. (teams that have been competitive more or less year in year out for a long time) have done so without top 5-10 picks every year and have managed to find plenty of talent. The point that you seem to be missing entirely is itâs not one or two top 10 elite talents that form a successful team.  Itâs a franchise who can find talent that fits what they do and develop it. If all you can do is bat .500 (being generous) on top 5-10 picks, it really doesnât matter as youâll never be successful. My point is that 90% of the good long-term notable players the Browns have drafted in 15+ years have all came from staying pat within the top 10. At the same time, the Browns have drafted nonstop garbage everytime they trade out of the top 10. There are your Mack/Schwartz/Schobert/Kirksey types they have gotten later but when you look at the amount of draft picks the Browns have used late 1st-7th.... coming away with only 5-6 notable players in 15+ years is like batting .025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: @NudeTayne, I bet most of the other second rounders picked after him have done more đ Case in point. Just now, AkronsWitness said: My point is that 90% of the good long-term notable players the Browns have drafted in 15+ years have all came from staying pat within the top 10. At the same time, the Browns have drafted nonstop garbage everytime they trade out of the top 10. There are your Mack/Schwartz/Schobert/Kirksey types they have gotten later but when you look at the amount of draft picks the Browns have used late 1st-7th.... coming away with only 5-6 notable players in 15+ years is like batting .025 This. Akron is on fire today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: My point is that 90% of the good long-term notable players the Browns have drafted in 15+ years have all came from staying pat within the top 10. At the same time, the Browns have drafted nonstop garbage everytime they trade out of the top 10. There are your Mack/Schwartz/Schobert/Kirksey types they have gotten later but when you look at the amount of draft picks the Browns have used late 1st-7th.... coming away with only 5-6 notable players in 15+ years is like batting .025 The underlying point is turd organizations waste picks, high or low.  Well run organizations develop those picks, high or low, into contributors. We donât âneedâ to take someone at 10, nor do we âneedâ to trade down.  We need to make the best decision. If thatâs taking a 10 year starter and stud at tackle, cool. If thatâs collecting assets, thatâs cool too. The bigger task is developing them once theyâre here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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