Draft watch 2020

[TVScout]

3 hours ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said:

Man, this would suck.

 

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT.

[Texas_OutLaw7]

2 minutes ago, TVScout said:

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT.

Some nice players, it's not terrible. But I would prefer a trade down.

[Nextyearfordaboyz]

2 hours ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said:

Man, this would suck.

 

I don't think this is a disaster. I think if you were to trade back from 17, you could still get an equivalent (or possibly the exact same) cornerback, and add another top-75 pick to use on a WR. If you added a good #3 receiver to this haul, it would be a pretty good group.

1 hour ago, plan9misfit said:

And Terrell could also turn into burnt toast like he did in most of Clemson's big games last season.

After the national championship game, I had pretty much determined to hate Terrell. But the more I watched, the less resolve I had on that.  If Clemson loses before playing LSU, he'd probably a clear top-25 selection in everyone's mind. He got torched by a WR group that made just about everyone look foolish last year. It's not ideal, and the guy isn't the next Deion, but I think he's going to be a really solid starting corner in the NFL.

I have personal preferences, but IMO, you could make a good argument for any of that tier of Terrell/Fulton/Gladney/Diggs/Igbinoghene/Johsnon as being the 3rd best corner. Which is why I would trade down at 17 rather than pick one of them there, even if we take a bath on the trade value chart.

41 minutes ago, matt79511 said:

I feel like Bobby simultaneously wants to (1) lower our expectations (fair) (2) piss people off (****) and most of all (3) get to be smug if these players people aren’t fans of end up being good (he’s constantly talking up these late round small school UDFA nobodies all year just for access to their agents).

Also, as a Cowboys media personality, there's not much value/upside in being the 83rd person to mock Chaisson to us.

[Texas_OutLaw7]

2 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

I don't think this is a disaster. I think if you were to trade back from 17, you could still get an equivalent (or possibly the exact same) cornerback, and add another top-75 pick to use on a WR. If you added a good #3 receiver to this haul, it would be a pretty good group.

Absent the first two picks, I would be okay with the draft. A trade back changes my entire perspective of the draft.

[Nextyearfordaboyz]

I think there are a ton of really good scenarios for the Cowboys in this draft. Staying put and drafting Henderson, Kinlaw, Chaisson, or Jeudy could all lead to really solid drafts. Same with trading back and adding an extra really solid player in the top-75.

But it's hard to drum up a scenario where taking a non-Henderson CB at #17 leads to an inspiring draft class. They have to figure out a way to trade out if the board gets wiped.

[plan9misfit]

2 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

I think there are a ton of really good scenarios for the Cowboys in this draft. Staying put and drafting Henderson, Kinlaw, Chaisson, or Jeudy could all lead to really solid drafts. Same with trading back and adding an extra really solid player in the top-75.

But it's hard to drum up a scenario where taking a non-Henderson CB at #17 leads to an inspiring draft class. They have to figure out a way to trade out if the board gets wiped.

I think we can all agree that if the board gets wiped, then there's a chance that either a top QB or top OT will likely fall because of it, thus improving our chances for a trade down.

[plan9misfit]

So, I have the best draft in this run, yet still only get an A- grade. Go figure.
Your score is: 41735 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (BALT): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah (A+)
Round 3 Pick 22 (BUF): Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22 (BUF): Kenny Willekes, DE, Michigan St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15 (T.B.): A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18: Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Khaleke Hudson, OLB/FS, Michigan (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Braden Mann, P, Texas A&M (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

How You Matched Up:

1. Dallas Cowboys - 41735
2. Jacksonville Jaguars - 40746
3. Miami Dolphins - 39707
4. New York Giants - 39127
5. Detroit Lions - 38767
6. Philadelphia Eagles - 38647
7. Cleveland Browns - 38611
8. Indianapolis Colts - 38604
9. Cincinnati Bengals - 38124
10. Los Angeles Chargers - 38102
11. New England Patriots - 38053
12. Kansas City Chiefs - 38025
13. Washington Redskins - 37989
14. Denver Broncos - 37742
15. Carolina Panthers - 37544
16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 36865

17. Green Bay Packers - 36696
18. Minnesota Vikings - 36682
19. Houston Texans - 36349
20. Arizona Cardinals - 36201
21. San Francisco 49ers - 35989
22. Pittsburgh Steelers - 35395
23. Las Vegas Raiders - 35381
24. New Orleans Saints - 35374
25. Baltimore Ravens - 35233
26. New York Jets - 34964
27. Seattle Seahawks - 34823
28. Tennessee Titans - 34703
29. Buffalo Bills - 34491
30. Los Angeles Rams - 34067
31. Atlanta Falcons - 33862
32. Chicago Bears - 32278

[SweetFancyMoses]

32 minutes ago, plan9misfit said:

I think we can all agree that if the board gets wiped, then there's a chance that either a top QB or top OT will likely fall because of it, thus improving our chances for a trade down.

And if we can't get decent trade down value,   I am fine with drafting a QB,  assuming we haven't re-signed Dak,  or drafting the remaining top 4 OT,   figuring out it he would play RT, and move La'el back to LG,  or having the rookie tackle play guard for a couple years.   Heck we could run some 6 Oline formations.

[SweetFancyMoses]

19 minutes ago, plan9misfit said:

So, I have the best draft in this run, yet still only get an A- grade. Go figure.
Your score is: 41735 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (BALT): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah (A+)
Round 3 Pick 22 (BUF): Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 3 Pick 40 (LAR): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22 (BUF): Kenny Willekes, DE, Michigan St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15 (T.B.): A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18: Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Khaleke Hudson, OLB/FS, Michigan (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Braden Mann, P, Texas A&M (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

How You Matched Up:

1. Dallas Cowboys - 41735
2. Jacksonville Jaguars - 40746
3. Miami Dolphins - 39707
4. New York Giants - 39127
5. Detroit Lions - 38767
6. Philadelphia Eagles - 38647
7. Cleveland Browns - 38611
8. Indianapolis Colts - 38604
9. Cincinnati Bengals - 38124
10. Los Angeles Chargers - 38102
11. New England Patriots - 38053
12. Kansas City Chiefs - 38025
13. Washington Redskins - 37989
14. Denver Broncos - 37742
15. Carolina Panthers - 37544
16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 36865

17. Green Bay Packers - 36696
18. Minnesota Vikings - 36682
19. Houston Texans - 36349
20. Arizona Cardinals - 36201
21. San Francisco 49ers - 35989
22. Pittsburgh Steelers - 35395
23. Las Vegas Raiders - 35381
24. New Orleans Saints - 35374
25. Baltimore Ravens - 35233
26. New York Jets - 34964
27. Seattle Seahawks - 34823
28. Tennessee Titans - 34703
29. Buffalo Bills - 34491
30. Los Angeles Rams - 34067
31. Atlanta Falcons - 33862
32. Chicago Bears - 32278

I hope next year that First Pick and NFLDraftNetwork combine their draft sims.   First Pick you can pillage teams.   In NFL Draft Network,   they pillage you.  

[Nextyearfordaboyz]

27 minutes ago, plan9misfit said:

I think we can all agree that if the board gets wiped, then there's a chance that either a top QB or top OT will likely fall because of it, thus improving our chances for a trade down.

Even if we don't have a great trade down option, honestly, if the alternative is taking one of those corners. 

You try to get more obviously, but if the best you can do is something like #34 & #75 (775 points) for #17 (950 points), I would do that over taking one of those corners at #17.

[plan9misfit]

4 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

Even if we don't have a great trade down option, honestly, if the alternative is taking one of those corners. 

You try to get more obviously, but if the best you can do is something like #34 & #75 (775 points) for #17 (950 points), I would do that over taking one of those corners at #17.

I wouldn't be thrilled with that return, but I understand your point.

[Nextyearfordaboyz]

21 minutes ago, plan9misfit said:

I wouldn't be thrilled with that return, but I understand your point.

Of course not. I hope we can have a bidding war for an OT or QB. I hope we could land another top-50 pick or a future 1st rounder.

I just mean that... you can find a trade partner at any point in the draft if you really want one. So it's really hard for me to fathom taking one of the CBs not named Henderson at #17. 

[plan9misfit]

Just now, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

Of course not. I hope we can have a bidding war for an OT or QB. I hope we could land another top-50 pick or a future 1st rounder.

I just mean that... you can find a trade partner at any point in the draft if you really want one. So it's really hard for me to fathom taking one of the CBs not named Henderson at #17. 

I hear you, I hear you. And I agree; I'd rather get compensation than force a lower value pick at 17.

[WizardHawk]

This would work to Cowboys' advantage. 

[D82]

Why did I think the draft was next week?