SkippyX Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, .Buzz said: The biggest problem is gone. I love Marrone and feel like he's been given a terrible hand, but it's best to clean house. What's not to love about a guy who runs in fear off the field in the AFCCG with 55 seconds and 2 timeouts left from his own 25? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SkippyX said: What's not to love about a guy who runs in fear off the field in the AFCCG with 55 seconds and 2 timeouts left from his own 25? Clearly shows he can't coach at this level, you're right. Edited December 19, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said: They don’t need a full blown rebuild though. Uh...yeah, Jags do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Speedyg said: Uh...yeah, Jags do. Not even close to 2013 rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Not even close to 2013 rebuild. Potential QB and two elite level edge rushers already put us way ahead of a full blown rebuild which I'd characterize as 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, KhanYouDigIt said: Not even close to 2013 rebuild. Eh... Dareus, Campbell, Bouye have HUGE cap figures that can easily be removed by releasing them. Linder has a large amount that easily can be removed. Foles has at best 1 year left. Norwell hasn't been worth his contract and will be cut-friendly after 2020. That's 1/3 of your "starters". There are question marks at LT, TE, RG, Lbs, safeties, and corner (s). The current GM was responsible for hiring the HC with worst W/l in Jags history, drafted Joeckel over Johnson, Bortles over Carr/Teddy, Yeldon over a stacked RB class (pick anyone really). Why isn't this a rebuild again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Speedyg said: Dareus, Campbell, Bouye have HUGE cap figures that can easily be removed by releasing them. Linder has a large amount that easily can be removed. yeah if we release all our good players, we probably will need to rebuild. damn. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Drats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Speedyg said: Eh... Dareus, Campbell, Bouye have HUGE cap figures that can easily be removed by releasing them. Linder has a large amount that easily can be removed. Foles has at best 1 year left. Norwell hasn't been worth his contract and will be cut-friendly after 2020. That's 1/3 of your "starters". There are question marks at LT, TE, RG, Lbs, safeties, and corner (s). The current GM was responsible for hiring the HC with worst W/l in Jags history, drafted Joeckel over Johnson, Bortles over Carr/Teddy, Yeldon over a stacked RB class (pick anyone really). Why isn't this a rebuild again? like Flux said, if we release our good players then sure, it will be a rebuild. no reason to release Campbell, Bouye or Linder. Dareus can be restructured if they can agree to that. building blocks are there. Taylor, Fournette, Chark, Allen, Ngakoue. Maybe guys like Minshew, Jack, Bryan. im not saying there aren’t holes on this team, there is but 2013, there was literally no building blocks. as for Caldwell choosing Gus, nobody wanted to come here and coach this dumpster fire. I remember Dave said nobody called him about the job. He said he had to make a bunch of cold calls. That speaks volume. address the trenches this off-season and this can be a quick turnaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, SwoleXmad said: Have you been within 200 miles of Sean McVay, cause ya might have a shot. Knowing coughlin it will be hand cranked. I'm within 200 miles of Mcvay right now and would love the chance to make Jacksonville relevant for the first time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Adrenaline_Flux said: yeah if we release all our good players, we probably will need to rebuild. damn. You're going to NEED to move on from these guys next year or year after. Smart *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said: like Flux said, if we release our good players then sure, it will be a rebuild. no reason to release Campbell, Bouye or Linder. Dareus can be restructured if they can agree to that. building blocks are there. Taylor, Fournette, Chark, Allen, Ngakoue. Maybe guys like Minshew, Jack, Bryan. im not saying there aren’t holes on this team, there is but 2013, there was literally no building blocks. as for Caldwell choosing Gus, nobody wanted to come here and coach this dumpster fire. I remember Dave said nobody called him about the job. He said he had to make a bunch of cold calls. That speaks volume. address the trenches this off-season and this can be a quick turnaround. Just because there are building blocks doesn't mean it doesn't need a rebuild. This roster is old/aging and overpaid. How long can you ride with Campbell and Dareus (who didn't play all that well before his injury)? Linder is constantly in age management missing practice and hasn't had a good season and been plague with penalties. No one wanted to come to Jax? Sure, maybe. But he still hired Gus after they fell in love, became best buds after what was it? A 15 hour interview session that turned into dinner? Address the trenches? Because Caldwell's record there is great? Luke Joeckel as a top 3 pick. Zane Beadles as a big money LG. AJ Cann at RG. Julius Thomas at TE (kinda sorta trench, but that's a marquee signing for him) His best move was Linder and, at RT, is a journeyman who was paid big money as a starter and played solid. On the defensive side, Fowler and Yann. This is like when Gus was deemed the sole reason for failure and was fired while everyone was brought back. Now TC is suddenly the scape goat. Sure TC made a mess (again). But the state of this franchise was so bad (record wise) under Gus and Dave that many were surprised that Dave was even retained when TC was hired (and Doug was viewed as a hire because TC vouched for him...one of two names with TC's approval according to Khan himself). Dave's only winning season is TC's first. And now we're going to entrust this franchise again to these guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Speedyg said: Just because there are building blocks doesn't mean it doesn't need a rebuild. This roster is old/aging and overpaid. How long can you ride with Campbell and Dareus (who didn't play all that well before his injury)? Linder is constantly in age management missing practice and hasn't had a good season and been plague with penalties. No one wanted to come to Jax? Sure, maybe. But he still hired Gus after they fell in love, became best buds after what was it? A 15 hour interview session that turned into dinner? Address the trenches? Because Caldwell's record there is great? Luke Joeckel as a top 3 pick. Zane Beadles as a big money LG. AJ Cann at RG. Julius Thomas at TE (kinda sorta trench, but that's a marquee signing for him) His best move was Linder and, at RT, is a journeyman who was paid big money as a starter and played solid. On the defensive side, Fowler and Yann. This is like when Gus was deemed the sole reason for failure and was fired while everyone was brought back. Now TC is suddenly the scape goat. Sure TC made a mess (again). But the state of this franchise was so bad (record wise) under Gus and Dave that many were surprised that Dave was even retained when TC was hired (and Doug was viewed as a hire because TC vouched for him...one of two names with TC's approval according to Khan himself). Dave's only winning season is TC's first. And now we're going to entrust this franchise again to these guys? Where did I ever say I wanted to keep Caldwell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Jags need to hire Louis Riddick to turn that franchise around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddfather Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Had to happen. Especially after that report a few days ago. These old school guys are obsolete now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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