Humble_Beast Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Theoretically we could carry 4 TE, 5 RB (1 being Ingold), by carrying one less OL. Richard/Bowden kind of seems redundant since they're both kind of scat back/3rd down backs. But Bowden has legit never played the position in his life. It could get scary if Jacobs misses any significant amount of time and our run game is dependent almost entirely on Richard/Bowden. read somewhere Bowden getting blown up trying to block. Richard is strictly a 3rd down back, and I aint buying the Ingold running the ball hype. I think it would be wise to keep another RB. Hopefully one of Booker/Stanback/Smith step up, or maybe add someone after cuts. Usually can find talent at the RB spot after cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: odds are in favor of the Raiders carrying 4 TE's. Gruden loves TE's and a lot of his packages are TE heavy. Carrier has some special teams value and Witten will be best used in the red zone. Plus Moreau had a significant injury last season and may start the year on PUP or be held back a few games so I can definitely see 4 TEs being carried into the season at least to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Darbsk said: Plus Moreau had a significant injury last season and may start the year on PUP or be held back a few games so I can definitely see 4 TEs being carried into the season at least to start. probably will keep 4 TEs. Moreau is not slowed down by his injury! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Based on the Athletic's recent podcast episode I think it's almost guaranteed that we carry 4 TEs. Go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: read somewhere Bowden getting blown up trying to block. It was a Tweet somewhere in this thread. We have to remember the guy was a QB not too long ago, asking him to block blitzing LBs early is going to be a disaster for himself and Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Blocking is not a surprising issue for Bowden, he was never asked to do it. That will take some work and time. how many they decided to keep at RB is the most interesting position group for me. Ideal world you would keep 3, but might have to go with 4. I would say 2 QBs( Carr and Marriota) 3 RB's (Jacobs,Richard and Bowden) and 4 TE's (Waller, Witten, Carrier and Moreau) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 figured Bowden would struggle with the nuances of pass blocking, especially early. Just makes me wonder how much Gruden will trust Bowden. I assume anytime hes in, during a passing situation hed be going out for passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Go on. They said they're expecting us to carry 4 TEs. Gruden wants to run a lot of 2-3 TE sets this season and all four guys have looked good in camp. They also said that Carrier is probably the best TE4 in the league plus an excellent special teams player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, agarcia34 said: 3 RB's (Jacobs,Richard and Bowden) A little risky going into the season with Richard (39 carries in 2019) and Bowden (never played RB in his life) as the only two backs behind Jacobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, NYRaider said: A little risky going into the season with Richard (39 carries in 2019) and Bowden (never played RB in his life) as the only two backs behind Jacobs. Rod Smith the rb is back I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, NYRaider said: A little risky going into the season with Richard (39 carries in 2019) and Bowden (never played RB in his life) as the only two backs behind Jacobs. Richard had 83 carries for 491 yards at a 5.9 average in 2016. I think he needs to run the ball more. We'll see. I'm comfortable with what we have. We can always sign a FA if things get ugly. Edited August 19, 2020 by Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: probably will keep 4 TEs. Moreau is not slowed down by his injury! Is Moreau fit and healthy then as I thought he was still recovering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Rod Smith the rb is back I thought I highly doubt that he makes the roster. He had zero carries in 2019 and 44 carries for 127 yards (2.9 avg) in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jerry said: Richard had 83 carries for 491 yards at a 5.9 average in 2016. I think he needs to run the ball more. We'll see. I'm comfortable with what we have. We can always sign a FA if things get ugly. If Jacobs misses any significant time we're going to have one of the worst running games in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, NYRaider said: If Jacobs misses any significant time we're going to have one of the worst running games in the NFL. Agreed. To put the entire teams outlook on one player (outside of a starting QB) is crazy imo, especially when how little cap space it costs to sign a decent RB2 OR how little draft capital it costs to draft one. Richard and Bowden are decent accessories to a run game but totally incapable of carrying a load. We did look at Hill for a few days so we must at least understand and realize the needs there. Maybe we trade a 6/7th (we have Chi’s ‘21 7th from the Eddie Pinero K trade) for a RB towards the end of camp or sign a guy who gets cut. Maybe I’m just to impatient but I’m about just getting the roster filled out during or even before camp.... who cares if we trade a 7th round pick instead of pick someone up off waivers because there’s value in them being in camp and reducing the risk of no one of adequate value being available. On the other side I do admit RB is a position where a guy can step right in and run the ball effectively. Plus, we have good pass blockers in Richard so the player wouldn’t be asked to do that; all they’d have to do is run the ball. On a separate note.... Richards pass blocking is highly underrated, he’s very effective in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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