dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 17 hours ago, SaveOurSonics said: Literally just got done watching game tape on him because I had the same reaction lol. You'd think the Packers fans around these parts would be beating the drum for this guy calling him one of the best CBs in the league. shows you just how unimportant that stat is. Lets add Sparq scores too, why not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Duluther said: But he’s also your only good player. So it’s technically true... so the Jets should let their "only" (LOL) "good" player hold the team hostage and destroy their cap for a box-safety? Got it. I'm sure Joe Douglas will be right on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, NFL_Fan said: funny thee hardcore jets fan doest even recognize their best talent in hmmmm how long???? I cant think of another Jets player in history other then overrated Namath...maybe that guy Mark Wahlberg played. That one bum that played a game? You can’t name Darrelle Revis? Some “nfl fan” you are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: False. You dont win 7 games with only a good safety. Come on... tell me you didn't laugh at "only" ! He thinks we should destroy the team's cap with a box-safety even though down the road Edge, QB and CB are going to need big contracts. Way to ruin the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, NFL_Fan said: funny thee hardcore jets fan doest even recognize their best talent in hmmmm how long???? I cant think of another Jets player in history other then overrated Namath...maybe that guy Mark Wahlberg played. That one bum that played a game? You should probably rewatch that movie. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: I mean...the Jets don't really have any great players aside from Jamal Adams. I feel like the Jets were the least talented 7-win team ever. Kudos to your coaches and players though, because they obviously play hard and coach well. yes because coach Gase is so great. At least you are right with respect to Greg Williams who was able to get the most out of Adams without him being all that responsible in coverage. SO there's that, as for coaching. But there's a bit more talent there than you proclaim. Just a tad mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Because these are the players on your team: https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/players-roster/ Browns do have a better roster. Our past GM before Douglas (Maccagnan) was an imbecile. His mentor was Bill O'Brien. That should tell you all you need to know about bad personnel decisions on the Jets. But the Browns failed to utilize that talent and finished well below expectations. The Jets made more out of their mess than the Browns made from that roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, dcat said: yes because coach Gase is so great. At least you are right with respect to Greg Williams who was able to get the most out of Adams without him being all that responsible in coverage. SO there's that, as for coaching. But there's a bit more talent there than you proclaim. Just a tad mind you. I mean, Gregg Williams had Jabrill Peppers and Mark Barron playing at incredible levels at the box safety position at times. I think he terms it "money-backer..." Hybrid safety/linebacker. A little more box-y than your typical SS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, dcat said: Browns do have a better roster. Our past GM before Douglas (Maccagnan) was an imbecile. His mentor was Bill O'Brien. That should tell you all you need to know about bad personnel decisions on the Jets. But the Browns failed to utilize that talent and finished well below expectations. The Jets made more out of their mess than the Browns made from that roster. Yeah, I mean Mike Maccagnan should have been gone two years before he left. Whiff after whiff, bad contract after bad contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 13 hours ago, Epyon said: I find it telling that Chicago was not one of the teams he would want a trade to, despite the Bears defense basically only missing a strong safety on an already stacked defense. Him coming to Chi-town would set up a potential contender for the top defense of all time, but he can smell the rancid dumpster fire that is the Chicago offense all the way from New York. his list of the hateful eight is complete BS. He knows he has no say. The purpose of that was to enrage the fans so as to put more pressure on the FO to move him. Nice ploy by Jamal. It won't work. He's got nothing left but social media whining in his arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 11 hours ago, NFL_Fan said: lmao I like howo you be attacking people in this forum...dude you pic is sanchez. piss off you dum troll. yes the jets are the worst team in the their conference...division...shoot state even..theyre trash. trash trash. get over it...no one cares about them. Everyone cares about Jamal Adams...he needs to get out of the crap hole so he can win and become the best safety of this generation...not waste away and watch Darnold suck a$$ this has to be the most hypocritical post on the entire forum. Well done. That takes a special talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: Lol what is this? Answer: incoherent, rambling, hypocritical drivel. Glad to help, but you knew that already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 hours ago, canadaluvsdallas said: Right and I think this is where the problem lies. Sure he’s asking for early contract demands but he’s clearly the best safety in the league right now and I wouldn’t say it’s it’s even kinda close. Seems like the Jets team and fan base in my humble opinion has to a degree been deluded to think he’s something less than that. He’s just asking for market value. You can’t let your best player on your roster be this unhappy. It doesn’t send a good message at all you can't let a player who has 2 full years left on his rookie contract to hold the rest of the team hostage. Period. And Douglas won't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, canadaluvsdallas said: Right and I think this is where the problem lies. Sure he’s asking for early contract demands but he’s clearly the best safety in the league right now and I wouldn’t say it’s it’s even kinda close. Seems like the Jets team and fan base in my humble opinion has to a degree been deluded to think he’s something less than that. He’s just asking for market value. You can’t let your best player on your roster be this unhappy. It doesn’t send a good message at all Bolded above is false. He's asking for way over market value. 38%+ more per year than the currently highest paid safety. He is demanding in excess of $20 million. Here is the list sorted by annual avarage salary (source: https://overthecap.com/position/safety/) Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year ▾ Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Eddie Jackson Bears 27 $58,400,000 $14,600,000 $33,000,000 $22,000,000 2025 UFA Kevin Byard Titans 27 $70,500,000 $14,100,000 $30,825,000 $19,625,000 2025 UFA Tyrann Mathieu Chiefs 28 $42,000,000 $14,000,000 $26,800,000 $26,800,000 2022 UFA Landon Collins Redskins 26 $84,000,000 $14,000,000 $44,500,000 $31,000,000 2025 UFA Earl Thomas Ravens 31 $55,000,000 $13,750,000 $32,000,000 $32,000,000 2023 UFA Devin McCourty Patriots 33 $23,000,000 $11,500,000 $17,000,000 $13,000,000 2022 Void Justin Simmons Broncos 27 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 2021 UFA Anthony Harris Vikings 28 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 $11,441,000 2021 UFA Kareem Jackson Broncos 32 $33,000,000 $11,000,000 $23,000,000 $23,000,000 2022 UFA Lamarcus Joyner Raiders 30 $42,000,000 $10,500,000 $21,300,000 $16,700,000 2023 UFA Harrison Smith Vikings 31 $51,250,000 $10,250,000 $28,578,000 $15,278,000 2022 UFA Jordan Poyer Bills 29 $19,500,000 $9,750,000 $13,300,000 $8,525,000 2023 UFA Jimmie Ward 49ers 29 $28,500,000 $9,500,000 $16,500,000 $13,000,000 2023 Void Adrian Amos Packers 27 $36,000,000 $9,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2023 UFA Malcolm Jenkins Saints 33 $32,000,000 $8,000,000 $16,250,000 $16,250,000 2024 UFA Bobby McCain Dolphins 27 $27,000,000 $6,750,000 $13,000,000 $9,982,000 2023 UFA Ricardo Allen Falcons 29 $19,500,000 $6,500,000 $10,914,000 $7,414,000 2022 UFA Jaquiski Tartt 49ers 28 $13,000,000 $6,500,000 $8,521,865 $5,521,865 2021 UFA Quandre Diggs Seahawks 29 $18,600,000 $6,200,000 $9,557,000 $7,500,000 2022 UFA Micah Hyde Bills 30 $30,500,000 $6,100,000 $14,000,000 $10,300,000 2022 UFA Vonn Bell Bengals 26 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2023 UFA Tre Boston Panthers 28 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2023 UFA Kenny Vaccaro Titans 29 $24,000,000 $6,000,000 $11,500,000 $7,250,000 2023 UFA Eric Murray Texans 26 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $10,750,000 $10,750,000 2023 UFA Jamal Adams Jets 25 $22,258,808 $5,564,702 $22,258,808 $22,258,808 2022 UFA Chuck Clark Ravens 25 $15,300,000 $5,100,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 2024 UFA Eric Rowe Dolphins 28 $14,750,000 $4,916,667 $7,830,000 $6,575,000 2023 UFA Shawn Williams Bengals 29 $19,500,000 $4,875,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2021 UFA Bradley McDougald Seahawks 30 $13,500,000 $4,500,000 $6,500,000 $5,500,000 2021 UFA Rodney McLeod Eagles 30 $8,650,000 $4,325,000 $7,800,000 $7,800,000 2022 Void Duron Harmon Lions 29 $17,000,000 $4,250,000 $6,500,000 $6,500,000 2021 UFA Minkah Fitzpatrick Steelers 24 $16,447,768 $4,111,942 $16,447,768 $16,447,768 2022 UFA Sean Davis Redskins 27 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 2021 UFA Juston Burris Panthers 27 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,100,000 $2,100,000 2022 UFA Jalen Mills Eagles 26 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 2021 UFA Daniel Sorensen Chiefs 30 $16,000,000 $4,000,000 $7,790,000 $4,690,000 2021 UFA Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix Cowboys 28 $3,750,000 $3,750,000 $2,250,000 $2,250,000 2021 UFA Patrick Chung Patriots 33 $6,400,000 $3,200,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2024 UFA Malik Hooker Colts 24 $12,600,108 $3,150,027 $12,600,108 $12,600,108 2021 UFA Darnell Savage Jr. Packers 23 $12,517,688 $3,129,422 $12,517,688 $12,517,688 2023 UFA Derwin James Chargers 24 $12,388,952 $3,097,238 $12,388,952 $12,388,952 2022 UFA Jeff Heath Raiders 29 $6,000,000 $3,000,000 $2,850,000 $2,850,000 2022 UFA Edited June 20, 2020 by dcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: @candyman93, this is why I have no interest in Adams. nor should most teams unless they are on the cusp of a championship. Unless a Championship is nearly around the corner, no GM in his right mind will allocate that share of cap to a box-safety, which is what Adams is, albeit a very good one. I suppose the rest of the league is going to completely ignore how he has crapped poop all over his teammates in this and also with his "need more dawgs" faux pas last year. Leadership? Adams is the anti-Leader pretending to be a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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