ET80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirill said: The Chiefs are a better team because we have Mahomes So, the "best TE in football" (according to you) and "the best WR in football" (according to you) and a "HoF RB" (according to you) is simply because of Mahomes? Then... maybe they're not as good as you've tried to tell us. 3 minutes ago, Kirill said: Mahomes has better weapons to throw the ball to, but Rodgers has the better OL and defense The better OL is the case, but how does a better defense lead to stats that are nearly the same for Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Malfatron said: most think its 1a and 1b with it still undecided with a few games left. I'm on this train of thought, the next few weeks will tell us everything. If Mahomes has another 3 INT game, he probably falls into "1b" territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 18 hours ago, incognito_man said: Probably. Rodgers has faced the 20th rated schedule. Mahomes has faced the 29th rated schedule. So far. I don't know where you get your rankings, but the one I saw was a lot closer. GB #27, KC #30. This is before the Chiefs play the #2 ranked Saints. http://www.powerrankingsguru.com/nfl/strength-of-schedule.php The major flaw in these is that the good teams drive down their own schedule. Hence KC #30 and Denver #3, despite having 3/4 of the schedule the same. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: I don't know where you get your rankings, but the one I saw was a lot closer. GB #27, KC #30. This is before the Chiefs play the #2 ranked Saints. http://www.powerrankingsguru.com/nfl/strength-of-schedule.php The major flaw in these is that the good teams drive down their own schedule. Hence KC #30 and Denver #3, despite having 3/4 of the schedule the same. J I use DVOA pretty much exclusively. By far the best metric available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Remaining schedule Green Bay: Carolina 4-9 Tennessee 9-4 @ Chicago 6-7 Kansas City: @ New Orleans 10-3 Atlanta 4-9 LA Chargers 4-9 Edited December 17, 2020 by onejayhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee & Contemplation Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Kirill said: How is Rodgers #1 when Mahomes and Rodgers stats are pretty much the same and Mahomes has 2 more wins? Y'all desperate to give it to anyone but Mahomes Stats are "pretty much the same" only if you think 6 more TDs and 1 fewer INT is equal to 500 yards. I would value the points over the yards. Edited December 17, 2020 by Coffee & Contemplation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: I use DVOA pretty much exclusively. By far the best metric available. Then link your source. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: Green Bay: Jacksonville 1-12 Tennessee 9-4 @ Chicago 6-7 If only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flounch Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, spilltray said: ok, Just ignore 21/29 (72.4%) and 4 TD. Yardage must be what really matters. So if a QB throws for 4/4, 40 yards and 4 TD, we can say that he destroyed a defense ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Flounch said: So if a QB throws for 4/4, 40 yards and 4 TD, we can say that he destroyed a defense ? As soon as a QB does that... well figure that out. Right now, the metric is 21/29 221/4 is the measure of worth, and I'd evaluate it as destroying a defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Coffee & Contemplation said: Stats are "pretty much the same" only if you think 6 more TDs and 1 fewer INT is equal to 500 yards. I would value the points over the yards. 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Yardage - the Dane Cook of stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: Then link your source. J lol google it you bum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 A = Aaron and that comes before P for Patrick in the alphabet, ergo Aaron is ahead of Patrick and the clear leader in MVP race If we consider middle names, Charles is vastly superior to Lavon, again giving the nod to Rodgers And finally the KC QB is named "Patrick Mahomes II" for a reason - He's used to being second and will always be second and even his proud parents are ok with that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, onejayhawk said: Remaining schedule Green Bay: Jacksonville 1-12 Tennessee 9-4 @ Chicago 6-7 Kansas City: @ New Orleans 10-3 Atlanta 4-9 LA Chargers 4-9 GB plays Carolina, not Jacksonville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Aaron Rodgers - Inside the 30 32 TDs, 0 INTs (1st) 127.5 QB Rating (1st) 73.5% Completions (1st) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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