Geezy Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 9/2/2024 at 6:00 AM, NCOUGHMAN said: Yea I hope whenever I go to a game in Vegas it’s kinda similar to the Oakland days i feel like its getting better, but not remotely close to Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:  He was insulted by playing in the 2022 HoF Game? I mean, I don't agree with Josh McDaniels on many things, but I do here. Jacobs was coming off of 2021 season where he missed time and took until week 15 to crack 100 yards, while only breaking 75 yards 4 times, Jacobs was already talking about an extension, had a history of slow starts and questions about his effort, and we were installing a new offense. Considering Jacobs played all year for the first time and had a career year in yards, per carry average, touchdowns, and receiving yards, it worked. I said before Josh McDaniels could squeeze 1000 yards from a rock. He did, and Jacobs looked focused and determined. But apparently he was miffed and had a down year again in 2023? Dude chases the easiest bag he can get for the least amount of work and scrutiny possible. When he's motivated to play hard, he does. He apparently doesn't like being motivated, it seems. Josh McDaniels didn't do much of anything right while he was here. He handled Jacobs the right way though. Jacobs himself seems to be his biggest obstacle.  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, Geezy said: i feel like its getting better, but not remotely close to Oakland. Gotta bring back the black hole it’s just not the same without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 31 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Gotta bring back the black hole it’s just not the same without it. Tough one. Part of me says "Hell yeah, bring it back". Part of me is so adamantly Oakland that I say "It'd be a cheap Vegas knock off, so don't try". I still tell people they're the Oakland Raiders taking up residency in Las Vegas. I don't think I'll ever fully embrace the Vegas part. Edited September 3 by ronjon1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Gotta bring back the black hole it’s just not the same without it. The Black Hole represented the blue collar nature of Oakland. That's long gone. I find myself less and less interested in the Vegas Raiders. The vibe is not what I grew up with. It's all corporate now. The stadium is a joke. There is no home field advantage. It's a playground for opposing fans. Bottle service, DJ's and overpriced concessions. It feels soulless. Feels like the movie version of the franchise if that makes any sense.  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 20 minutes ago, big_palooka said: The Black Hole represented the blue collar nature of Oakland. That's long gone. I find myself less and less interested in the Vegas Raiders. The vibe is not what I grew up with. It's all corporate now. The stadium is a joke. There is no home field advantage. It's a playground for opposing fans. Bottle service, DJ's and overpriced concessions. It feels soulless. Feels like the movie version of the franchise if that makes any sense.  I think that can be said for a lot of NFL teams. Blue collar types are getting priced out everywhere. More Raiders fans need to show up, I think it’ll take some time. Winning would also help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, ronjon1990 said:  I still tell people they're the Oakland Raiders taking up residency in Las Vegas. I don't think I'll ever fully embrace the Vegas part. I usually just call them The Raiders. It's either Oakland Raiders or that. Even in LA I called them the Raiders more than the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Being from LA, Ive never bough anything with Oakland or Las Vegas on it, just Raiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: The Black Hole represented the blue collar nature of Oakland. That's long gone. I find myself less and less interested in the Vegas Raiders. The vibe is not what I grew up with. It's all corporate now. The stadium is a joke. There is no home field advantage. It's a playground for opposing fans. Bottle service, DJ's and overpriced concessions. It feels soulless. Feels like the movie version of the franchise if that makes any sense.  Having been in the black hole "club" (I have friends around the team) a few times, I'm not impressed. It's a beautiful stadium, but I can't help but miss the nostalgia of OCO. Especially the tailgates and the good wins. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: Tough one. Part of me says "Hell yeah, bring it back". Part of me is so adamantly Oakland that I say "It'd be a cheap Vegas knock off, so don't try". I still tell people they're the Oakland Raiders taking up residency in Las Vegas. I don't think I'll ever fully embrace the Vegas part. Oakland/ cal fans are just different and most I know won’t go to Vegas until it’s a better product. We lost a lil edge moving to Vegas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 hours ago, big_palooka said: The Black Hole represented the blue collar nature of Oakland. That's long gone. I find myself less and less interested in the Vegas Raiders. The vibe is not what I grew up with. It's all corporate now. The stadium is a joke. There is no home field advantage. It's a playground for opposing fans. Bottle service, DJ's and overpriced concessions. It feels soulless. Feels like the movie version of the franchise if that makes any sense.  This frfr black hole was part of the culture and people had to respect it or I seen what happened when they didn’t. It’s just no respect now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 hours ago, Geezy said: Being from LA, Ive never bough anything with Oakland or Las Vegas on it, just Raiders My first raiders gear was a la Raiders duffel bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersForever Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 hours ago, Geezy said: I think that can be said for a lot of NFL teams. Blue collar types are getting priced out everywhere. More Raiders fans need to show up, I think it’ll take some time. Winning would also help.    And less inflation. If I have to choose between going to a game and making sure I have enough $$$ for groceries, I know what I'm choosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Man I remember yelling Rrrrraaaaiiiiiddddeerrrssss walking into Allegiant for the first time and other Raiders fans looking at me like I was nuts I knew then it was different. It’s gotten better as people are catching on, AP definitely helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Oakland/ cal fans are just different and most I know won’t go to Vegas until it’s a better product. We lost a lil edge moving to Vegas Yep. My interest in Vegas is marginal at best, and I LOVE blackjack. I'll go to Detroit and Windsor, even Springfield, MA before Vegas though. I've lived in tourist traps before and they really don't appeal to me. I'm not anti-Vegas, and I am definitely a Raiders fan I'm also not anti-Pete Davidson and love me some Kate Beckinsale. Doesn't mean I liked their relationship lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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