pf9 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Furthermore, the decisions of the NBA and NHL to resume play the way they did caused one RSN, Fox Sports Detroit, to lose out on Pistons and Red WIngs telecasts for the rest of the season, the only RSN to lose out on both the NBA and NHL because of the pandemic. I felt that if one RSN had to be shut out until the next season, then all of them had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Also, had the NBA season been canceled, the Spurs' playoff streak would still be intact at 22 years, with a chance to set an NBA record next year. Thus, the Spurs were not as lucky as the 1994 Atlanta Braves, who were in second place when the players' strike broke. Thus, that season is not held against them, and the Braves are recognized as having won 14 straight division titles from 1991-2005. If Spurs fans knew their team would miss the playoffs, they would have fought hard against the restart in order to preserve their playoff streak without question. As it is, the longest active streak isn't even 10 years now. Edited October 4, 2020 by pf9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 7:49 AM, Danger said: Anything to spite Dallas, I'm in favor of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) If the NFL only wants Cowboys and Lions on. Then so be it but let them face each other only. Also please don't ever move a primetime time game like Steelers vs Ravens for a garbage like today. Edited November 27, 2020 by Chargers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Chargers said: If the NFL only wants Cowboys and Lions on. Then so be it but let them face each other only. Also please don't ever move a primetime time game like Steelers vs Ravens for a garbage like today. They didn't move the Steelers/ Ravens game for either that was played? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigInBoys Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 8:50 PM, cp0k2 said: The Detroit Lions began the modern tradition of playing on Thanksgiving in 1934. They invented the concept for the NFL. The NFL, you, and the handful of other people that make this thread every year (usually closer to Thanksgiving but you jumped the gun this year), and anyone else that thinks they're taking the game away from the Lions can kick rocks, it's not yours to take. "Invented the concept"...give me a break. It's not exactly inventing the wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ · Dec 1, 2020 Thanksgiving Day Washington-Dallas on Fox: 30.333 million viewers. Houston-Detroit on CBS: 23.389 million viewers.    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ Of note: Washington-Dallas pulled in more TV viewers than any other NFL game this season. 10:31 AM · Dec 1, 2020  271   And that's why you always see Washington vs Cowboys on Thanksgiving.  In fact, when you ask yourself or post on here why NFC East always get the Primetime games?  Because the ratings are always good for it.  And remember....this was a matchup between (2) 3-7 football teams.  Imagine the ratings had they been good?  Dallas & Washington was the most watched game all year.  And I'm even willing to bet that had Ravens & Steelers actually played that night?  Washington vs Dallas would still have had the most watchers.  Fact is...the NFC East is a big draw. No matter what... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said:    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ · Dec 1, 2020 Thanksgiving Day Washington-Dallas on Fox: 30.333 million viewers. Houston-Detroit on CBS: 23.389 million viewers.    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ Of note: Washington-Dallas pulled in more TV viewers than any other NFL game this season. 10:31 AM · Dec 1, 2020  271   And that's why you always see Washington vs Cowboys on Thanksgiving.  In fact, when you ask yourself or post on here why NFC East always get the Primetime games?  Because the ratings are always good for it.  And remember....this was a matchup between (2) 3-7 football teams.  Imagine the ratings had they been good?  Dallas & Washington was the most watched game all year.  And I'm even willing to bet that had Ravens & Steelers actually played that night?  Washington vs Dallas would still have had the most watchers.  Fact is...the NFC East is a big draw. No matter what... I think that has more to do with Dallas than it does the NFC East. Dallas in general has historically been the most watched NFL team regardless of the games. I've never heard talk of a general uptick in viewers based on the other teams in the division, though it wouldn't be super surprising given the media market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 If it were up to me, I'd have the thanksgiving games be a rotation of division rivalries every year. And I'd rotate through these rivalries for every team: Dallas-Philadelphia Washington-NY Giants Detroit-Minnesota Green Bay-Chicago Atlanta-New Orleans Carolina-Tampa Bay San Francisco-Seattle LA Rams-Arizona New England-NY Jets Buffalo-Miami Cincinnati-Cleveland Baltimore-Pittsburgh Indianapolis-Houston Jacksonville-Tennessee Kansas City-Las Vegas  It would take probably 6 years to get through the whole setup without adding a 4th game... so I'd add a 4th game. Do an 11am, a 2:30, a 6, and a west coast 9:30 game. Go like this: AFC E, NFC N, AFC S, NFC W one year then: NFC E, AFC N, NFC S, AFC W, the next year. Just keep rotating them and cycling through. That way every 4 years, you get your biggest division rival on thanksgiving day.  I'd also make it to where Throwbacks (Fauxbacks in the case of CAR and JAX) would be allowed to be worn for those teams who want the old school looks (See ATL-NO or DET-MIN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 division rivalries have plenty of opportunities to be on national TV the fact the Thanksgiving night game is usually a division game anymore (after the move to NBC; in contrast, NFL Network only had a division game on Thanksgiving night once) limits the potential matchups for the game of course my Thanksgiving schedule formula would still have given the night slot to a division game this year, but the Cardinals and Rams have longer Thanksgiving droughts than the Ravens and Steelers (which ended up being extended for those teams this year) under my proposed formula, division games would only happen on Thanksgiving day once in a blue moon - it would be a while before any division rivals of Detroit or Dallas appear on Thanksgiving again, because all six of those teams have appeared on the holiday once in the last 10 years (including this year) - and to me, more than once in the last 10 years is far too frequent if I desire to see the other four teams more or less rotate - and this is coming from a Packers fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) On 12/1/2020 at 2:14 PM, scar988 said: If it were up to me, I'd have the thanksgiving games be a rotation of division rivalries every year. And I'd rotate through these rivalries for every team: Detroit-Minnesota  It would take probably 6 years to get through the whole setup without adding a 4th game... so I'd add a 4th game. Do an 11am, a 2:30, a 6, and a west coast 9:30 game. Go like this: AFC E, NFC N, AFC S, NFC W one year then: NFC E, AFC N, NFC S, AFC W, the next year. Just keep rotating them and cycling through. That way every 4 years, you get your biggest division rival on thanksgiving day.  I'd also make it to where Throwbacks (Fauxbacks in the case of CAR and JAX) would be allowed to be worn for those teams who want the old school looks (See ATL-NO or DET-MIN) There is no rivalry with Detroit. We feel bad for their fans! Minnesota Vikings lead series 77-39-2 The Falcons put up a better fight Minnesota Vikings lead series 20-12-0 Edited December 3, 2020 by TENINCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 hours ago, TENINCH said: There is no rivalry with Detroit. We feel bad for their fans! Minnesota Vikings lead series 77-39-2 The Falcons put up a better fight Minnesota Vikings lead series 20-12-0 True. And there's the whole 1998 NFC Championship game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 1:08 PM, aceinthehouse said:    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ · Dec 1, 2020 Thanksgiving Day Washington-Dallas on Fox: 30.333 million viewers. Houston-Detroit on CBS: 23.389 million viewers.    John Ourand  @Ourand_SBJ Of note: Washington-Dallas pulled in more TV viewers than any other NFL game this season. 10:31 AM · Dec 1, 2020  271   And that's why you always see Washington vs Cowboys on Thanksgiving.  In fact, when you ask yourself or post on here why NFC East always get the Primetime games?  Because the ratings are always good for it.  And remember....this was a matchup between (2) 3-7 football teams.  Imagine the ratings had they been good?  Dallas & Washington was the most watched game all year.  And I'm even willing to bet that had Ravens & Steelers actually played that night?  Washington vs Dallas would still have had the most watchers.  Fact is...the NFC East is a big draw. No matter what...   Let's not ignore the fact that a 4:30 game is 1:30 Pacific time. It's Thanksgiving and there is little else to do - put Chiefs and anyone in that time slot and it's 35 million viewers. Comparing it to the game that started at 9:30am in the Pacific time zone is a joke - the fact that it only had 7 million less viewers is a knock on DAL/WAS to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 9:02 AM, scar988 said: True. And there's the whole 1998 NFC Championship game. Which by the way was revenge for the 1991 World Series (as it involved the same two cities) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 OK, the Rams and Cowboys did not clinch the same place in their divisions. Neither did Jacksonville and Cleveland, or Denver and Cleveland. So, the Thanksgiving day schedule for 2021 should be: Arizona at Detroit - Arizona has gone longer than any other home opponent of Detroit without playing on Thanksgiving (last appearance: 2008) Denver at Dallas - while Arizona is also playing at Dallas, Denver is not playing at Detroit, and thus Denver has the longest Thanksgiving drought of the Cowboys' remaining home opponents; not appear on the holiday during the Peyton Manning era was perhaps punishment for Peyton joining that team instead of the Browns; had Peyton joined the Browns they likely would have gotten a Thanksgiving game at some point during 2012-15 Jacksonville at LA Rams - The Rams have the longest active Thanksgiving drought of everyone not playing at Dallas or Detroit, and the longest overall; of the Rams 2021 opponents, Jacksonville has gone longest without a Thanksgiving appearance, never playing on the holiday; even though Jacksonville had the worst record in 2020, their likely new quarterback, Trevor Lawrence appears to be very marketable, so in anticipation of the Jaguars picking him first overall, the Jaguars-Rams game should be scheduled as the night game on Thanksgiving Cleveland would thus be next in line to end the longest active Thanksgiving drought in 2022 under the scheduling formula for that holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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