NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Mock Draft 4.0 (Used Tankathon's lottery machine once) 1. Orlando: Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State 2. Minnesota: Evan Mobley | FC | USC 3. Houston: Jalen Green | SG | G-League 4. Cleveland: Jonathan Kuminga | F | G-League 5. Detroit: Keon Johnson | GF | Tennessee 6. Oklahoma City: Jalen Suggs | PG | Gonzaga 7. Toronto: Davion Mitchell | PG | Baylor 8. Orlando (via CHI): Alperen Sengun | C | Turkey 9. Sacramento: Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State 10. New Orleans: Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas 11. Charlotte: Kai Jones | FC | Texas 12. San Antonio: Franz Wagner | F | Michigan 13. Indiana: James Bouknight | SG | UConn 14. Golden State: Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon 15. Washington: Corey Kispert | GF | Gonzaga 16. Boston: Josh Giddey | GF | Australia 17. Memphis: Tre Mann | CG | Florida 18. Oklahoma City (via MIA😞 Ziaire Williams | F | Stanford 19. New York: Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn 20. Atlanta: Cameron Thomas | CG | LSU 21. New York: Jalen Johnson | F | Duke 22. Los Angeles: Ayo Dosunmu | PG | Illinois 23. Houston (via POR): Jaden Springer | CG | Tennessee 24. Houston (via MIL): Usman Garuba | F | Spain 25. LA Clippers: Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 26. Denver: Jared Butler | CG | Baylor 27. Brooklyn: Greg Brown | F | Texas 28. Philadelphia: Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | F | Villanova 29. Phoenix: Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky 30. Utah: Johnny Juzang | GF | UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: In the 6-14 range it does get a little murky but three guys that I think have definitely cemented themselves there are Davion Mitchell, Scottie Barnes, and Keon Johnson. After those 3 though it really is just a complete crap shoot. I like Sengun the most I think. I get his playstyle isn't the most desirable but being that productive and efficient in such a challenging league bodes well. He has clear strengths that will translate to the NBA. I could see him being a player who if you embrace them and lean into his strengths he can be very, very good. Like play him in drop coverage on defense (his blocks/steals are very encouraging and players with his IQ inevitably turn into at least decent defenders) + have him in a motion offense where he can pass from the high post a lot. I think if you put him in a motion/ball movement offense + a defense that doesn't switch centers you will be in business. When players are very young, have very high fg%, very high ft%, very high assist rates, and get a lot of blocks/steals - to me those are all major metrics for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, roger murdock said: I like Sengun the most I think. I get his playstyle isn't the most desirable but being that productive and efficient in such a challenging league bodes well. He has clear strengths that will translate to the NBA. I could see him being a player who if you embrace them and lean into his strengths he can be very, very good. Like play him in drop coverage on defense (his blocks/steals are very encouraging and players with his IQ inevitably turn into at least decent defenders) + have him in a motion offense where he can pass from the high post a lot. I think if you put him in a motion/ball movement offense + a defense that doesn't switch centers you will be in business. When players are very young, have very high fg%, very high ft%, very high assist rates, and get a lot of blocks/steals - to me those are all major metrics for success. So he's essentially Jusuf Nurkic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 hours ago, NYRaider said: Mock Draft 4.0 (Used Tankathon's lottery machine once) 1. Orlando: Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State 2. Minnesota: Evan Mobley | FC | USC 3. Houston: Jalen Green | SG | G-League 4. Cleveland: Jonathan Kuminga | F | G-League 5. Detroit: Keon Johnson | GF | Tennessee 6. Oklahoma City: Jalen Suggs | PG | Gonzaga 7. Toronto: Davion Mitchell | PG | Baylor 8. Orlando (via CHI): Alperen Sengun | C | Turkey 9. Sacramento: Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State 10. New Orleans: Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas 11. Charlotte: Kai Jones | FC | Texas 12. San Antonio: Franz Wagner | F | Michigan 13. Indiana: James Bouknight | SG | UConn 14. Golden State: Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon 15. Washington: Corey Kispert | GF | Gonzaga 16. Boston: Josh Giddey | GF | Australia 17. Memphis: Tre Mann | CG | Florida 18. Oklahoma City (via MIA😞 Ziaire Williams | F | Stanford 19. New York: Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn 20. Atlanta: Cameron Thomas | CG | LSU 21. New York: Jalen Johnson | F | Duke 22. Los Angeles: Ayo Dosunmu | PG | Illinois 23. Houston (via POR): Jaden Springer | CG | Tennessee 24. Houston (via MIL): Usman Garuba | F | Spain 25. LA Clippers: Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 26. Denver: Jared Butler | CG | Baylor 27. Brooklyn: Greg Brown | F | Texas 28. Philadelphia: Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | F | Villanova 29. Phoenix: Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky 30. Utah: Johnny Juzang | GF | UCLA This would just make me puke as a Pistons fan. I still would lean Suggs over Johnson even with Hayes but man it would be super disappointing to drop out of the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: This would just make me puke as a Pistons fan. I still would lean Suggs over Johnson even with Hayes but man it would be super disappointing to drop out of the top 4. I was the leader of the Hayes fan club last season, I still think he'll be very good. Went with Johnson there because I think Hayes and Suggs are too similar and you guys are just starting a major rebuild. Johnson is raw but his shooting mechanics look fine, he has plus athleticism, and he'll be a plus level defender. I've seen him compared to Latrell Sprewell and a smaller Jaylen Brown, that's not a terrible player to grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Watch Minnesota win the lottery again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I was the leader of the Hayes fan club last season, I still think he'll be very good. Went with Johnson there because I think Hayes and Suggs are too similar and you guys are just starting a major rebuild. Johnson is raw but his shooting mechanics look fine, he has plus athleticism, and he'll be a plus level defender. I've seen him compared to Latrell Sprewell and a smaller Jaylen Brown, that's not a terrible player to grab. I agree but I also am not a fan of drafting for need unless you have multiple guys rated really close. I still think Suggs is a top 4 talent in this draft and you just add that type of talent. Johnson is just an unexciting pick that might turn out but even if he is Latrell Spreewell, he doesnt change our franchise. We need one of those top 3 guys IMO or we just get stuck back in that 7-14 pick range for the next 4 years unless Hayes has crazy development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 In a dream case scenario where OKC lands 1 and 5. I'd try to package 5, 16, and a future pick to move up for Mobley as well after taking Cade #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: I agree but I also am not a fan of drafting for need unless you have multiple guys rated really close. I still think Suggs is a top 4 talent in this draft and you just add that type of talent. Johnson is just an unexciting pick that might turn out but even if he is Latrell Spreewell, he doesnt change our franchise. We need one of those top 3 guys IMO or we just get stuck back in that 7-14 pick range for the next 4 years unless Hayes has crazy development. I think Suggs ceiling is probably a Jrue Holiday type of player, a good 3/4 but not someone who will ever be a star. Johnson is definitely a riskier pick but with that risk you also have the potential reward of a 20+ ppg scorer and plus defender if he pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 @Sllim Pickens what happened with Sekou? I know a lot of people loved him during the draft. Haven't heard much of anything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Ran the lottery 10 times, took the 10th result. BK's 2021 NBA Mock Draft v2.0First Round 1. Detroit - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State 2. Cleveland - Evan Mobley | C | USC 3. Oklahoma City - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite 4. Toronto - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga 5. Oklahoma City (via HOU) - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite 6. Orlando - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee 7. Golden State (via MIN) - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor 8. Orlando (via CHI) - Kai Jones | FC | Texas 9. Sacramento - Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State 10. New Orleans - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas 11. Charlotte - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas 12. San Antonio - Usman Garuba | PF | Real Madrid 13. Indiana - Cameron Thomas | SG | LSU 14. Golden State - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga 15. Washington - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor 16. Oklahoma City (via BOS) - Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky 17. Memphis - James Bouknight | SG | UConn 18. Houston (via MIA) - Jalen Johnson | F | Duke 19. New York - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon 20. Atlanta - Jaden Springer | PG | Tennessee 21. New York (via DAL) - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn 22. LA Lakers - Tre Mann | PG | Florida 23. Houston (via POR) - Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan 24. Houston (via MKE) - Josh Giddey | G | Adelaide 25. LA Clippers - Miles McBride | G | West Virginia 26. Denver - Ziaire Williams | GF | Stanford 27. Brooklyn - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina 28. Philadelphia - Trey Murhpy III | GF | Virginia 29. Phoenix - Josh Christopher | SG | Arizona State 30. Utah - Johnny Juzang | SF | UCLA Second Round 31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Ayo Dosunmu | G | Illinois 32. New York (via DET) - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky 33. Orlando - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky 34. New Orleans (via CLE) - Filip Petrusev | PF | Mega Bemax 35. Oklahoma City - Ariel Hukporti | C | BC Nevezis 36. Oklahoma City (via MIN) - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU 37. Detroit (via TOR) - Greg Brown | FC | Texas 38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova 39. Sacramento - Luka Garza | C | Iowa 40. New Orleans (via CHI) - Austin Reaves | SG | Oklahoma 41. San Antonio - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State 42. Detroit (via CHA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga 43. New Orleans (via WAS) - Joshua Primo | GF | Alabama 44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite 45. Boston - Rokas Jokubaitis | PG | Zalgiris 46. Toronto (via MEM) - Isaiah Todd | FC | G League Ignite 47. Toronto (via GSW) - Roko Prkacin | PF | Cibona 48. Atlanta (via MIA) - Terrence Shannon Jr | SG | Texas Tech 49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Herbert Jones | SF | Alabama 50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Vrenz Bleijenbergh | F | Antwerp 51. Memphis (via POR) - Matthew Hurt | PF | Duke 52. Detroit (via LAL) - Ibou Dianko Badji | C | Barcelona 53. New Orleans (via DAL) - David Johnson | PG | Louisville 54. Indiana (via MKE) - JT Thor | PF | Auburn 55. Oklahoma City (via DEN) - Max Abmas | PG | Oral Roberts 56. Charlotte (via LAC) - Isaiah Livers | F | Michigan 57. Charlotte (via BKN) - RaiQuan Gray | PF | Florida State 58. New York (via PHI) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke 59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris 60. Indiana (via UTA) - McKinley Wright IV | PG | Colorado Direct Link: https://fanspo.com/u/bkobow05/mock-drafts/qnqxNrCrALIqLv/bks-2021-nba-mock-v20-w-lottery-sim Edited June 18, 2021 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 @beekay414 in that scenario would Cleveland be letting Allen walk or do you think Mobley/Allen can play together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Also Ziaire Williams, Usman Garuba, and Jalen Johnson's are all huge wild cards, could see all of them going a lot earlier than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: @beekay414 in that scenario would Cleveland be letting Allen walk or do you think Mobley/Allen can play together? I think Mobley moves well enough to play the 4 next to Allen once Love's gone. Won't clog the paint on offense either IMO. Think Mobley can play a more perimeter based offensive game, like Nance and Love evolved into. Defensively, they'd be a nice pair to cover up for their backcourt's shortcomings. Edited June 18, 2021 by beekay414 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I think Mobley moves well enough to play the 4 next to Allen once Love's gone. Won't clog the paint on offense either IMO. Think Mobley can play a more perimeter based offensive game, like Nance and Love evolved into. Defensively, they'd be a nice pair to cover up for their backcourt's shortcomings. I'm excited for the lottery, the league will probably throw Toronto a bone and give them Cade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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