2021 NBA Draft Thread

[beekay414]

4 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

If you're looking for a role player I guess but he's just so limited offensively, not sure why he's being mocked in the top 10.

And he's not really a great shooter so the 3&D appeal isn't really there. 34% on 4 attempts a game at the collegiate level doesn't really inspire confidence in his 3pt shot. 32.5% on 4 attempts for his career.

Edited June 30, 2021 by beekay414

[NYRaider]

 

[Texansfan713]

7 hours ago, NYRaider said:

Watching some Usman Garuba, would be hesitant to spend a 1st round pick on him.

why?  he has the potential to be an elite defender in the league.  that alone is worth picking him round 1.  i know some might be hesitant his shooting needs work but he has potential. He is still young too. (Will be 19 when the season starts).  hope he is an option at pick 23 and 24.

[beekay414]

Basketball News (Alex Kennedy) put out their mock today...

https://www.basketballnews.com/draft

First Round
1. Detroit - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State
2. Houston - Evan Mobley | FC | USC
3. Cleveland - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite
4. Toronto - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga
5. Orlando - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite
6. Oklahoma City - Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State
7. Golden State (via MIN) - James Bouknight | SG | UConn
8. Orlando (via CHI) - Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan
9. Sacramento - Jalen Johnson | F | Duke
10. New Orleans - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas
11. Charlotte - Kai Jones | FC | Texas
12. San Antonio - Josh Giddey | SG | Adelaide
13. Indiana - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor
14. Golden State - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga
15. Washington - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee
16. Oklahoma City (via BOS) - Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky
17. Memphis - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon
18. Oklahoma City (via MIA) - Ziaire Williams | GF | Stanford
19. New York - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn
20. Atlanta - Josh Christopher | SG | Arizona State
21. New York (via DAL) - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas
22. LA Lakers - Tre Mann | PG | Florida
23. Houston (via POR) - Jaden Springer | PG | Tennessee
24. Houston (via MKE) - Usman Garuba | PF | Real Madrid
25. LA Clippers - Trey Murphy | GF | Virginia
26. Denver - Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia
27. Brooklyn - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU
28. Philadelphia - Roko Prkacin | F | Cibona
29. Phoenix - Cam Thomas | SG | LSU
30. Utah - JT Thor | PF | Auburn

Second Round
31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor
32. New York (via DET) - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky
33. Orlando - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina
34. Oklahoma City - Josh Primo | SG | Alabama
35. New Orleans (via CLE) - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State
36. Oklahoma City (via MIN) - Greg Brown | PF | Texas
37. Detroit (via TOR) - Ayo Dosunmu | SG | Illinois
38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova
39. Sacramento - Sandro Mamukelashvili | C | Seton Hall
40. New Orleans (via CHI) - Ariel Hukporti | C | Nevezis
41. San Antonio - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky
42. Detroit (via CHA) - Isaiah Todd | PF | G League Ignite
43. New Orleans (via WAS) - David Duke Jr | G | Providence
44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Chris Smith | F | UCLA
45. Boston - Marcus Zegarowski | PG | Creighton
46. Toronto (via MEM) - Quentin Grimes | G | Houston
47. Toronto (via GSW) - Neemias Queta | C | Utah State
48. Atlanta (via MIA) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke
49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Joe Wieskamp | GF | Iowa
50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Aaron Henry | GF | Michigan State
51. Memphis (via POR) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite
52. Detroit (via LAL) - Terrence Shannon Jr | GF | Texas Tech
53. New Orleans (via DAL) - Filip Petrusev | PF | Mega Bemax
54. Indiana (via MKE) - Kessler Edwards | SF | Pepperdine
55. Oklahoma City (via DEN) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris
56. Charlotte (via LAC) - David Johnson | PG | Louisville
57. Charlotte (via BKN) - Sam Hauser | F | Virginia
58. New York (via PHI) - Isaiah Livers | F | Michigan
59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - Jericho Sims | C | Texas
60. Indiana (via UTA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga

[Texansfan713]

if Mobley is the pick at 2 sign me up for that draft haul. 

[NYRaider]

11 hours ago, Texansfan713 said:

why?  he has the potential to be an elite defender in the league.  that alone is worth picking him round 1.  i know some might be hesitant his shooting needs work but he has potential. He is still young too. (Will be 19 when the season starts).  hope he is an option at pick 23 and 24.

Small ball 5 with the size of a 3/4 and zero skill/range on his jumper. 

[Sllim Pickens]

4 hours ago, beekay414 said:

Basketball News (Alex Kennedy) put out their mock today...

https://www.basketballnews.com/draft

First Round
1. Detroit - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State
2. Houston - Evan Mobley | FC | USC
3. Cleveland - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite
4. Toronto - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga
5. Orlando - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite
6. Oklahoma City - Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State
7. Golden State (via MIN) - James Bouknight | SG | UConn
8. Orlando (via CHI) - Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan
9. Sacramento - Jalen Johnson | F | Duke
10. New Orleans - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas
11. Charlotte - Kai Jones | FC | Texas
12. San Antonio - Josh Giddey | SG | Adelaide
13. Indiana - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor
14. Golden State - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga
15. Washington - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee
16. Oklahoma City (via BOS) - Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky
17. Memphis - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon
18. Oklahoma City (via MIA) - Ziaire Williams | GF | Stanford
19. New York - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn
20. Atlanta - Josh Christopher | SG | Arizona State
21. New York (via DAL) - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas
22. LA Lakers - Tre Mann | PG | Florida
23. Houston (via POR) - Jaden Springer | PG | Tennessee
24. Houston (via MKE) - Usman Garuba | PF | Real Madrid
25. LA Clippers - Trey Murphy | GF | Virginia
26. Denver - Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia
27. Brooklyn - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU
28. Philadelphia - Roko Prkacin | F | Cibona
29. Phoenix - Cam Thomas | SG | LSU
30. Utah - JT Thor | PF | Auburn

Second Round
31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor
32. New York (via DET) - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky
33. Orlando - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina
34. Oklahoma City - Josh Primo | SG | Alabama
35. New Orleans (via CLE) - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State
36. Oklahoma City (via MIN) - Greg Brown | PF | Texas
37. Detroit (via TOR) - Ayo Dosunmu | SG | Illinois
38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova
39. Sacramento - Sandro Mamukelashvili | C | Seton Hall
40. New Orleans (via CHI) - Ariel Hukporti | C | Nevezis
41. San Antonio - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky
42. Detroit (via CHA) - Isaiah Todd | PF | G League Ignite
43. New Orleans (via WAS) - David Duke Jr | G | Providence
44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Chris Smith | F | UCLA
45. Boston - Marcus Zegarowski | PG | Creighton
46. Toronto (via MEM) - Quentin Grimes | G | Houston
47. Toronto (via GSW) - Neemias Queta | C | Utah State
48. Atlanta (via MIA) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke
49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Joe Wieskamp | GF | Iowa
50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Aaron Henry | GF | Michigan State
51. Memphis (via POR) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite
52. Detroit (via LAL) - Terrence Shannon Jr | GF | Texas Tech
53. New Orleans (via DAL) - Filip Petrusev | PF | Mega Bemax
54. Indiana (via MKE) - Kessler Edwards | SF | Pepperdine
55. Oklahoma City (via DEN) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris
56. Charlotte (via LAC) - David Johnson | PG | Louisville
57. Charlotte (via BKN) - Sam Hauser | F | Virginia
58. New York (via PHI) - Isaiah Livers | F | Michigan
59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - Jericho Sims | C | Texas
60. Indiana (via UTA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga

I love that haul for Detroit.  Cade and Ayo is huge.  Todd has upside and probably would have been a higher pick had he gone to college.  I'd probably go Ayayi instead of Shannon but whatever at that point.  I also doubt we keep all of those seconds.  I have seen us package some of them to move into the first.  Also saw one today with us trading Josh Jackson and a 2nd to get to 22 from the Lakers.  If we did that I'd like to see Trey Murphy as the pick there.  

[Jeezla]

6 hours ago, beekay414 said:

Basketball News (Alex Kennedy) put out their mock today...

https://www.basketballnews.com/draft

First Round
1. Detroit - Cade Cunningham | GF | Oklahoma State
2. Houston - Evan Mobley | FC | USC
3. Cleveland - Jalen Green | GF | G League Ignite
4. Toronto - Jalen Suggs | G | Gonzaga
5. Orlando - Jonathan Kuminga | F | G League Ignite
6. Oklahoma City - Scottie Barnes | F | Florida State
7. Golden State (via MIN) - James Bouknight | SG | UConn
8. Orlando (via CHI) - Franz Wagner | SF | Michigan
9. Sacramento - Jalen Johnson | F | Duke
10. New Orleans - Moses Moody | SG | Arkansas
11. Charlotte - Kai Jones | FC | Texas
12. San Antonio - Josh Giddey | SG | Adelaide
13. Indiana - Davion Mitchell | G | Baylor
14. Golden State - Corey Kispert | SF | Gonzaga
15. Washington - Keon Johnson | SG | Tennessee
16. Oklahoma City (via BOS) - Isaiah Jackson | FC | Kentucky
17. Memphis - Chris Duarte | SG | Oregon
18. Oklahoma City (via MIA) - Ziaire Williams | GF | Stanford
19. New York - Sharife Cooper | PG | Auburn
20. Atlanta - Josh Christopher | SG | Arizona State
21. New York (via DAL) - Alperen Sengun | C | Besiktas
22. LA Lakers - Tre Mann | PG | Florida
23. Houston (via POR) - Jaden Springer | PG | Tennessee
24. Houston (via MKE) - Usman Garuba | PF | Real Madrid
25. LA Clippers - Trey Murphy | GF | Virginia
26. Denver - Miles McBride | PG | West Virginia
27. Brooklyn - Nah'Shon Hyland | G | VCU
28. Philadelphia - Roko Prkacin | F | Cibona
29. Phoenix - Cam Thomas | SG | LSU
30. Utah - JT Thor | PF | Auburn

Second Round
31. Milwaukee (via HOU) - Jared Butler | PG | Baylor
32. New York (via DET) - Brandon Boston Jr | SG | Kentucky
33. Orlando - Day'Ron Sharpe | C | North Carolina
34. Oklahoma City - Josh Primo | SG | Alabama
35. New Orleans (via CLE) - Marcus Bagley | SF | Arizona State
36. Oklahoma City (via MIN) - Greg Brown | PF | Texas
37. Detroit (via TOR) - Ayo Dosunmu | SG | Illinois
38. Chicago (via NOP) - Jeremiah Robinson-Earl | PF | Villanova
39. Sacramento - Sandro Mamukelashvili | C | Seton Hall
40. New Orleans (via CHI) - Ariel Hukporti | C | Nevezis
41. San Antonio - Charles Bassey | C | Western Kentucky
42. Detroit (via CHA) - Isaiah Todd | PF | G League Ignite
43. New Orleans (via WAS) - David Duke Jr | G | Providence
44. Brooklyn (via IND) - Chris Smith | F | UCLA
45. Boston - Marcus Zegarowski | PG | Creighton
46. Toronto (via MEM) - Quentin Grimes | G | Houston
47. Toronto (via GSW) - Neemias Queta | C | Utah State
48. Atlanta (via MIA) - DJ Steward | PG | Duke
49. Brooklyn (via ATL) - Joe Wieskamp | GF | Iowa
50. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Aaron Henry | GF | Michigan State
51. Memphis (via POR) - Daishen Nix | PG | G League Ignite
52. Detroit (via LAL) - Terrence Shannon Jr | GF | Texas Tech
53. New Orleans (via DAL) - Filip Petrusev | PF | Mega Bemax
54. Indiana (via MKE) - Kessler Edwards | SF | Pepperdine
55. Oklahoma City (via DEN) - Juhann Begarin | G | Paris
56. Charlotte (via LAC) - David Johnson | PG | Louisville
57. Charlotte (via BKN) - Sam Hauser | F | Virginia
58. New York (via PHI) - Isaiah Livers | F | Michigan
59. Brooklyn (via PHX) - Jericho Sims | C | Texas
60. Indiana (via UTA) - Joel Ayayi | SG | Gonzaga

Giddey/Bassey would be a decent haul for SA. Hard to see Keon Johnson lasting to 15.

[NYRaider]

7 hours ago, beekay414 said:

Basketball News (Alex Kennedy) put out their mock today...

Would be happy with Thor at #30, swing for the fences. 

[catcheryea]

5 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said:

Also saw one today with us trading Josh Jackson and a 2nd to get to 22 from the Lakers.  If we did that I'd like to see Trey Murphy as the pick there.  

first of all what a ridiculous trade

secondly they could pick a handful of dirt with that pick and troy weaver should still be given executive of the year on the spot

[seminoles1]

Just now, catcheryea said:

first of all what a ridiculous trade

secondly they could pick a handful of dirt with that pick and troy weaver should still be given executive of the year on the spot

Seriously. What's the motivation for the Lakers?

[NYRaider]

5 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said:

Also saw one today with us trading Josh Jackson and a 2nd to get to 22 from the Lakers.  If we did that I'd like to see Trey Murphy as the pick there.  

We'll trade #30 for Jackson

[catcheryea]

40 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

We'll trade #30 for Jackson

put the pipe down

[NYRaider]

1 hour ago, catcheryea said:

put the pipe down

How is 22 and a 2nd worth it but not 30 and a future pick?

[Sllim Pickens]

7 hours ago, seminoles1 said:

Seriously. What's the motivation for the Lakers?

The motivation is they need shorter cheaper contracts and are in win now mode.  Josh Jackson offers some scoring off the bench and a long body for defense on the wing.  Likely more impactful out of the gate for this season than anyone they will get at 22 plus Jackson is still only 24 years old.