incognito_man Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, dinkus23 said: Making the playoffs with 11 wins surely is an outlier statistically... How many teams with winning records have the Pack won over TT/MM/DC regime? Let alone on the road which this team hilariously finds itself come playoff time with the best QB in the game. It's not impressive either. why are we letting alone "on the road". You're shifting to something and I don't know why. If it were easy to replace an all-pro QB and maintain success there should be more examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackyAttacky Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, NormSizedMidget said: No. Don't do this. Deep breaths That ******* follows me around and harass me and doesnt do **** about the trolls. There are a hundred sites out there, who gives a crap about cause of a **** mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, PackyAttacky said: That ******* follows me around and harass me and doesnt do **** about the trolls. There are a hundred sites out there, who gives a crap about cause of a **** mod. Just keep fighting the good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinkus23 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: why are we letting alone "on the road". You're shifting to something and I don't know why. If it were easy to replace an all-pro QB and maintain success there should be more examples. Ah, the Packers outside of one post season run almost a decade ago don't travel well - and unfortunately also get thumped at home in the postseason - which hilariously enough rarely happens because they have had to travel after the wildcard round most years. So what is it they do well, outside of having a generational talent at QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, dinkus23 said: Ah, the Packers outside of one post season run almost a decade ago don't travel well - and unfortunately also get thumped at home in the postseason - which hilariously enough rarely happens because they have had to travel after the wildcard round most years. So what is it they do well, outside of having a generational talent at QB? you're all over the place now. weren't we talking about replacing an all-pro QB? what happened to that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I hate this argument so much. How good are the Patriots without Tom Brady? How about the Eagles without Carson Wentz? This whole fallacy that somehow the Packers are built poorly because they lose their star QB is terrible logic. NE's record without Brady during the 4 game suspension was 3-1 last season? Think the Pack wins >70% of their games without ARod this season? Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinkus23 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: you're all over the place now. weren't we talking about replacing an all-pro QB? what happened to that point? Replacing an all-pro QB ain't easy - teams have done enough hold their head above water sans one before.., but critics of this teams direction and overall philosophy over the past 7-10 years would point out that the only reason they eek out 10 wins (in difficult fashion sometimes), is because of said QB play. We're about to find out what the mettle of this organization is made of. Aaron won't be Aaron for much longer, and those of us who were screaming for Ted to do more, feared this exact day for that reason. You bet on a bull market and get out, then re-evaluate your position with the assets you have, TT played a once in a lifetime QB like it was a 30 year 401k investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Ted finally signed free agents and he still did nothing. Nothing matters unless we win it all. Nothing anyone could ever do, any gm, any coach, anything will ever be enough unless we win. The complaints shift and turn and twist. All because we haven't won again. It's all that matters. The decisions don't actually matter. Only the outcome. It gets so hard to listen to the complaints every year like they're so obvious and easy when they change so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, dinkus23 said: Replacing an all-pro QB ain't easy - teams have done enough hold their head above water sans one before.., but critics of this teams direction and overall philosophy over the past 7-10 years would point out that the only reason they eek out 10 wins (in difficult fashion sometimes), is because of said QB play. We're about to find out what the mettle of this organization is made of. Aaron won't be Aaron for much longer, and those of us who were screaming for Ted to do more, feared this exact day for that reason. You bet on a bull market and get out, then re-evaluate your position with the assets you have, TT played a once in a lifetime QB like it was a 30 year 401k investment. Even those of us who don't scream at TT "fear" the day that Aaron Rodgers gets a season-ending injury. I'm not sure why one needs to have screamed at TT to be aware that this loss is critical to team success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, NormSizedMidget said: Ted finally signed free agents and he still did nothing. Nothing matters unless we win it all. Nothing anyone could ever do, any gm, any coach, anything will ever be enough unless we win. The complaints shift and turn and twist. All because we haven't won again. It's all that matters. The decisions don't actually matter. Only the outcome. It gets so hard to listen to the complaints every year like they're so obvious and easy when they change so often. Maybe when Aaron retires all these "fans" will root for another team and our collective fan base IQ can go back up. Or Elliot Wolf will be a good GM and we'll just be subjected to another 20 years of people wanting all 53 men on the roster to either a Pro Bowler or a FA vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinkus23 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Even those of us who don't scream at TT "fear" the day that Aaron Rodgers gets a season-ending injury. I'm not sure why one needs to have screamed at TT to be aware that this loss is critical to team success. Because many believe he was complacent post super bowl in his team building approaches. Those on here who rallied to the flag of "the future" now get to reap what long term investing sowed... not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Maybe when Aaron retires all these "fans" will root for another team and our collective fan base IQ can go back up. Or Elliot Wolf will be a good GM and we'll just be subjected to another 20 years of people wanting all 53 men on the roster to either a Pro Bowler or a FA vet. It's so exhausting every time they can they need to go tell us all how they always knew what was wrong and how to fix it or whatever. It's the only reason like 20% of these guys post. Wolf would get a pass for a bit. Not long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, dinkus23 said: Because many believe he was complacent post super bowl in his team building approaches. Those on here who rallied to the flag of "the future" now get to reap what long term investing sowed... not much. this doesn't even mean anything. are you suggesting those who "rallied to the flag of the future" got Aaron Rodgers injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, dinkus23 said: Because many believe he was complacent post super bowl in his team building approaches. Those on here who rallied to the flag of "the future" now get to reap what long term investing sowed... not much. Yawn. You all called it. You are all geniuses because Rodgers broke just collarbone. You are vindicated because he got hurt. I hope it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, incognito_man said: this doesn't even mean anything. are you suggesting those who "rallied to the flag of the future" got Aaron Rodgers injured? It doesn't matter. Rodgers could get hit by a bus and that would be proof that were right. It's all they want. They want to be told they knew how to fix this team. They said the same crap before 2010 and now they weren't wrong. It was a fluke. If Rodgers comes back and we're 9-7 and win the SB, we won because of something they were right about somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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