MikeT14 5,062 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 43 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Holy crap dude. What were you expecting? Lol Great as opposed to good or very good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lavar703 5,940 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Great as opposed to good or very good. I mean, by most standards they both had great seasons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSkinGM 931 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Great as opposed to good or very good. Do you guys remember at one point I was reading J Allen could go number 1 overall. Yeah, I too have been looking for great- game changer . Chase young too. Not convinced he's the second coming of Dexter Manley . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turtle28 4,298 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, RSkinGM said: Do you guys remember at one point I was reading J Allen could go number 1 overall. Yeah, I too have been looking for great- game changer . Chase young too. Not convinced he's the second coming of Dexter Manley . You’ll never be convinced of anything. I don’t think Jon Allen was being considered going #1 overall but top 5 yes. I do know this, he’s better then who the 49ers took that year which was Solomon Thomas. You want to talk about a bust, look at that guy! Jon Allen has been a very good player. He’s not elite, but he’s been very good and if he’s gone there’s a major hole on our DL and while Ioannidis is a better pass rusher, Allen is a better run defender and better all around player. If Allen is gone, our DL will miss him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSkinGM 931 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I'll keep Settle and The Greek over resigning him . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turtle28 4,298 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: I'll keep Settle and The Greek over resigning him . I think that’s a downgrade. They’re not as good all around. What Allen & Payne do goes unnoticed because most of their best work is done on run downs and on the interior. That stuff doesn’t show up on the stat sheet but is key to us having a top 5 defense. Do I have to remind you that barely Ioannidis played this year and w/o him we did have a top 5 D? That’s not taking anything away from Ioannidis and his ability as an interior pass rusher but it’s just giving more credit to Allen & Payne for what they do. Edited January 12 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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