Tugboat Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, thrILL! said: More than the 5 zillion procedural shows like CSI, NCIS, Chicago PD/FD/Med, Law & Order, FBI, The Rookie, Blue Bloods, Will Trent, Tracker, Hawaii 5-0, Magnum P.I. and all their spinoffs? There’s way too much of that iyam. I think it's a massive oversimplification to suggest that Episodic = Procedural shows. Especially in the case of a lot of those listed, which are insanely formulaic template shows. Good episodic shows have elements of that, in the fundamental "compartmentalization" of episodes. But there's a ton of room for nuance within that framework. It doesn't have to be a procedural like CSI or Law & Order or whatever that follows an absolutely strict template of events. The Rookie is actually a darn good show, and illustrates exactly that. There isn't the same sort of plodding, predictable procedural formula that applies to every single episode. They actually change things up quite a bit in how episodes are structured and how the plot moves along. That's what good episodic television can be. Just entertaining, light watching distraction. Rather than repetitive tedium. Or drawn out serialized tension that lazily strings a story across endless episodes without resolution, stretching it as thin as possible before finally wrapping it up. Which gives you...one satisfying payoff, instead of like half a dozen or more in the same span. It's just about stringing people along for their fix, like an addiction. Good episodic shows also manage to build strong characters and longer arcs that develop in the background through context and interactions along the way. Doing that sort of character-driven show is a mostly lost art these days. Serialized shows are easier for "character development" because you can string it out and make it into an ongoing central plot point. Just dedicating a bunch of an episode to tedious exposition dumps and flashbacks or any of the other lazy devices that permeate that format. Rather than having to find clever ways to address it tangentially by relating it directly to the "case of the week". Also, a bunch of those shows you listed are cancelled, or running out the last of their episodes. lol. Edited February 15 by Tugboat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 54 minutes ago, Tugboat said: Also, a bunch of those shows you listed are cancelled, or running out the last of their episodes. lol. McDonald’s is McDonald’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, thrILL! said: McDonald’s is McDonald’s And sometimes you just want some reliable, "you know what you're getting" fast food. Sometimes i just don't have the energy or emotional bandwidth to sit down and attentively watch an hour of weighty, dark, draining ultra serialized television with absolutely no resolution to anything within the episode. A self contained little bit of amusing and familiar fluff while i'm halfway distracted by something else is the perfect elixir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Tugboat said: And sometimes you just want some reliable, "you know what you're getting" fast food. Sometimes i just don't have the energy or emotional bandwidth to sit down and attentively watch an hour of weighty, dark, draining ultra serialized television with absolutely no resolution to anything within the episode. A self contained little bit of amusing and familiar fluff while i'm halfway distracted by something else is the perfect elixir. I love the first 10 seasons of Law & Order but after that it started chasing headlines which eventually felt gimmicky. I never messed with SVU tho bcuz if I’m going to invest time in a show that delves into the disturbing, it’s gotta be elite content for me like s1 of True Detective. I know ppl that have watched every season of SVU. 20+ seasons of rape, sexual assault, predators every single week is too much time to spend in that headspace. But a show like Will Trent is a good vibe where you can kinda check out and just enjoy it. There are plenty of those shows too. I totally get where you’re coming from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Out of that list I enjoy The Rookie and Will Trent. I used to enjoy the 911 shows, but those feel like they are running out of steam at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 8 hours ago, thrILL! said: I love the first 10 seasons of Law & Order but after that it started chasing headlines which eventually felt gimmicky. I never messed with SVU tho bcuz if I’m going to invest time in a show that delves into the disturbing, it’s gotta be elite content for me like s1 of True Detective. I know ppl that have watched every season of SVU. 20+ seasons of rape, sexual assault, predators every single week is too much time to spend in that headspace. But a show like Will Trent is a good vibe where you can kinda check out and just enjoy it. There are plenty of those shows too. I totally get where you’re coming from. Yeah I got to like season 18 lol then just couldn’t do it anymore. The show also changed so much it stopped being good a long time ago. Just couldn’t top the original cast. Edited February 15 by Fresh Prince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The hell did Starlight do to her face between seasons? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The first season of Ozark was pretty good. A few complete lapses in common sense in some of the story telling, but overall a pretty good narrative nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 12 hours ago, THE DUKE said: The first season of Ozark was pretty good. A few complete lapses in common sense in some of the story telling, but overall a pretty good narrative nonetheless. You watching for the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, THE DUKE said: The first season of Ozark was pretty good. A few complete lapses in common sense in some of the story telling, but overall a pretty good narrative nonetheless. Ozark is definitely one of those shows that’s really good, but boring at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Finally decided to give Tokyo vice a watch. The "I want it that way" scene was pretty hilarious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: You watching for the first time? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, THE DUKE said: Yes Nice! Enjoy the ride. Look forward to hearing what you think when you're done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It’s not a streaming service but I’ll take it . Every episode of Yes Dear is on YouTube. Only waited over 10 years for it to pop up somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The Boys is definitely not for everyone but if it's your cup of tea, it's awesome. Great show on so many levels. Can't wait for S4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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