MookieMonstah Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ET80 said: I'm not upset, I'm just telling you you're wrong and you're underplaying home field advantage... by a pretty big amount. I don't sig bet, but I'm willing to sig bet Saints go 0-3 in those games I mention. You went on a rant because I think Tampa Bay is better than Dallas and Buffalo. Its an odd reaction, because I'd say Tampa can certainly be argued as the best team of the 3. I'll take that sig bet, although I have no way of making you a sig for when you lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, MookieMonstah said: Saints were missing Michael Thomas. Both teams have injuries. Overcoming them is a part of football. Saints have been missing Michael Thomas all season - AB and Gronk we're HUGE parts of their offense this season. You're not this obtuse. Stop being that guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, MookieMonstah said: I'll take that sig bet, although I have no way of making you a sig for when you lose. I know a guy when it comes to it. Loser wears the sign until the end of the 2023 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: Saints have been missing Michael Thomas all season - AB and Gronk we're HUGE parts of their offense this season. You're not this obtuse. Stop being that guy. The Saints have been running Kevin White at WR. I don't care how integrated they were in the offense, Thomas not playing is FAR more significant. Tampa still has two top 15 WRs to throw the ball to. Laughable comparison. Also, Gronk started the game and was a non-factor. Davenport abused him on a pass rush. Edited November 1, 2021 by MookieMonstah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, ET80 said: I know a guy when it comes to it. Loser wears the sign until the end of the 2023 season? Sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, MookieMonstah said: The Saints have been running Kevin White at WR. I don't care how integrated they were in the offense, Thomas not playing is FAR more significant. No it isn't because if it was, the Saints would be completely inept without him (especially given he wasn't around during last season when they went 12-4). Thomas was/is not nearly as important as you're making him out to be - if he was, the Saints wouldn't have been successful last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, ET80 said: No it isn't because if it was, the Saints would be completely inept without him (especially given he wasn't around during last season when they went 12-4). Thomas was/is not nearly as important as you're making him out to be - if he was, the Saints wouldn't have been successful last season. That doesn't even make sense. The Saints were good without Thomas so therefore he clearly isn't good. He is a top 10 WR and the Saints have dog poop at WR right now and it has absolutely effected the passing game. The Bucs receivers are loaded with or without AB/Gronk. Stop it dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: 3 minutes ago, ET80 said: I know a guy when it comes to it. Loser wears the sign until the end of the 2023 season? Sure @Deadpulse - I'll need you for sig duties once one of us loses. I'll ping you when we're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: That doesn't even make sense. The Saints were good without Thomas so therefore he clearly isn't good. Please show me where I said that. I said the Saints offense is as good without him, not that he isn't good. The Saints O kept on going without him for nearly an entire season, so while he's good, he's not exactly the key guy making this engine run. 8 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: The Bucs receivers are loaded with or without AB/Gronk. Stop it dude. Never said they weren't, but you're pretending that Brady's best RZ target coming off of injury isn't significant and doesn't impact the next game (in Tampa, no less). Let me explain it as such - NO beat TB in NO, without Gronk, AB and MT. In TB, Gronk should be back and AB will be back, MT will not be back. So, why do you think the results will be the same with all of those differences? What about this makes it not as hard as this first game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: The Saints have been running Kevin White at WR. I don't care how integrated they were in the offense, Thomas not playing is FAR more significant. Tampa still has two top 15 WRs to throw the ball to. Laughable comparison. Also, Gronk started the game and was a non-factor. Davenport abused him on a pass rush. Considering he's played a grand total of 8 games in almost 2 calendar years, you might as well say the Saints missing Drew Brees is more significant too. Talking about missing Thomas at this point is laughable. Can't miss what's never around. They've gone 11-6 without him. He's clearly not THAT crucial to the Saints' success. Edited November 1, 2021 by ronjon1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ET80 said: Please show me where I said that. I said the Saints offense is as good without him, not that he isn't good. The Saints O kept on going without him for nearly an entire season, so while he's good, he's not exactly the key guy making this engine run. Never said they weren't, but you're pretending that Brady's best RZ target coming off of injury isn't significant and doesn't impact the next game (in Tampa, no less). Let me explain it as such - NO beat TB in NO, without Gronk, AB and MT. In TB, Gronk should be back and AB will be back, MT will not be back. So, why do you think the results will be the same with all of those differences? What about this makes it not as hard as this first game? Most recent reports I've seen are that Thomas should be back in the next couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 How did Justin Fields activate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, ET80 said: Please show me where I said that. I said the Saints offense is as good without him, not that he isn't good. The Saints O kept on going without him for nearly an entire season, so while he's good, he's not exactly the key guy making this engine run. Never said they weren't, but you're pretending that Brady's best RZ target coming off of injury isn't significant and doesn't impact the next game (in Tampa, no less). Let me explain it as such - NO beat TB in NO, without Gronk, AB and MT. In TB, Gronk should be back and AB will be back, MT will not be back. So, why do you think the results will be the same with all of those differences? What about this makes it not as hard as this first game? I would assume MT is back for that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The Patriots once went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as their QB...In other words, using a teams record only to determine a single players importance seems far fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, tyler735 said: The Patriots once went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as their QB... ...this 11-5 season coming after said Patriots were a David Tyree catch away from going undefeated. So, that was a pretty good team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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