WindyCity Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: No, they completely flipped everything from 2017 to 2019, thats when this all starts, YEARS before you get to become the Super Bowl favorites They traded Sammy Watkins who was 25 for picks. We are talking about a 32 year old DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: Poles is eating some hard decisions this offseason to better set the team up for the future. That is pretty obvious based on the moves so far. Poles is not going all in on 2022. No one said he was going all in on 2022...he doesn't have the resources for that... But this talk of holding stuff back for 2022 just doesn't happen in the NFL...it doesn't happen in any high level sport...you can't tell guys not to be competitive or try and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Which started when they got a quality QB as well as having minimal changes to their staff. When did Beane, McDermott and Daboll get to Buffalo? Oh thats right 2017/18. Please keep diggin this hole 3 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: And who is running that franchise day to day? I really have No clue what point you are trying to make here, because you have failed to make one in these last 8 pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: They traded Sammy Watkins who was 25 for picks. We are talking about a 32 year old DE. Sammy Watkins who was a bust...totally different situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: When did Beane, McDermott and Daboll get to Buffalo? Oh thats right 2017/18. Please keep diggin this hole I really have No clue what point you are trying to make here, because you have failed to make one in these last 8 pages No one is saying they didn't get there in 2017...there is no hole being dug...want to talk about the record the 3 years before they got there?... 2016...7-9 2015...8-8 2014...9-7 Does that seem like a sunken ship to you? Edited April 28, 2022 by Madmike90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: No one said he was going all in on 2022...he doesn't have the resources for that... But this talk of holding stuff back for 2022 just doesn't happen in the NFL...it doesn't happen in any high level sport...you can't tell guys not to be competitive or try and win. He moved on from players that would help in 2022. He did not spend money in 2022 and has a huge bank roll in 2023. Poles is not building a team that is meant to win in 2022. No one is telling the guys here to tank. He just isn't putting a lot of talent here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Sammy Watkins who was a bust...totally different situation. Yet the Rams traded a 2nd for him and the Chiefs paid him a big contract after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, WindyCity said: He moved on from players that would help in 2022. He did not spend money in 2022 and has a huge bank roll in 2023. Poles is not building a team that is meant to win in 2022. No one is telling the guys here to tank. He just isn't putting a lot of talent here. He moved on from most broken down vets, guys who didn't want to be here & overrated youngster...as painfully as it is to admit as on some level I like all these guys for being Bears that's what they truly were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, WindyCity said: Yet the Rams traded a 2nd for him and the Chiefs paid him a big contract after that. And how did that work out for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: Does that seem like a sunken ship to you? The point is, they completely tore it down, flipped over the entire roster in just 2 offseasons. And you are only making our point stronger, A middling/mediocre franchise cam make that flip, but it takes drastic measures. Ones like tearing it up and stating over, including taking a QB prospect that NO ONE believed in, definitely not to this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: He moved on from most broken down vets, guys who didn't want to be here & overrated youngster...as painfully as it is to admit as on some level I like all these guys for being Bears that's what they truly were. The league disagrees that Mack and Robinson are broken down. Poles is not building a team to win in 2022. You do not sit our free agency if you are trying to compete this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, StLunatic88 said: The point is, they completely tore it down, flipped over the entire roster in just 2 offseasons. And you are only making our point stronger, A middling/mediocre franchise cam make that flip, but it takes drastic measures. Ones like tearing it up and stating over, including taking a QB prospect that NO ONE believed in, definitely not to this level. They still had a base to do that from...what some.of you guys are suggesting is get rid of everyone...win 3 games...then build from there...no team does that unless the only reason they were so bad was down to injury... You need a base to build from...not having one can set your franchise into a tail spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: And how did that work out for them? Worked out awesome for the team that traded him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, WindyCity said: The league disagrees that Mack and Robinson are broken down. Poles is not building a team to win in 2022. You do not sit our free agency if you are trying to compete this season. I don't think Robinson is broken down at all...he just wanted out of Chicago...I also think he will do break in LA...I think anyone would agree Mack is not what he was...still a good player but for a mid 2nd it is obvious he is not what he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: Worked out awesome for the team that traded him. Yeah...and we have no 25 year old to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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