warfelg Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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warfelg Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Bouchette and ProFootballTalk are both reporting that Art Rooney II might fire Canada since Tomlin hasn’t yet, and rumor is a majority of the coaching staff “isn’t Tomlin guys” saying Matt Canada was one of the few “Tomlin hires” but his promotion wasn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, warfelg said: Bouchette and ProFootballTalk are both reporting that Art Rooney II might fire Canada since Tomlin hasn’t yet, and rumor is a majority of the coaching staff “isn’t Tomlin guys” saying Matt Canada was one of the few “Tomlin hires” but his promotion wasn’t. This would be welcome news….but also concerning as hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Dcash4 said: This would be welcome news….but also concerning as hell. Whats so concerning? I welcome it as long as they go outside the organization for the replacement OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, 43M said: Whats so concerning? I welcome it as long as they go outside the organization for the replacement OC. Concerning that the owner would have to step in and do the HC’s job for him. I personally think Canada needs to go before we get in too deep. But if Tomlin needs to be told that by the owner, I would worry. Maybe it could be a good thing with there being some pressure pushed down to Tomlin about needing to find more urgency with his staff and not expecting things to get better because he thinks they’ll get better. But bypassing the coach usually signals the beginning of an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: Concerning that the owner would have to step in and do the HC’s job for him. I personally think Canada needs to go before we get in too deep. But if Tomlin needs to be told that by the owner, I would worry. Maybe it could be a good thing with there being some pressure pushed down to Tomlin about needing to find more urgency with his staff and not expecting things to get better because he thinks they’ll get better. But bypassing the coach usually signals the beginning of an end. I’m concerned the opposite way that Tomlin doesn’t quite have the level of autonomy we thought he had, and that many of the issues from a staff standpoint are Art Rooney II things not Tomlin things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Either Tomlin gets to make his assistant coaching choices and wins or loses on that or just let him go. If the Owner is going to meddle in the coaching of the team then the Owner had better get a GM and a coach he can live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, jebrick said: Either Tomlin gets to make his assistant coaching choices and wins or loses on that or just let him go. If the Owner is going to meddle in the coaching of the team then the Owner had better get a GM and a coach he can live with. And the issue there is Dan made the hires of Tomlin and Colbert and didn’t meddle. They say that Tombert make the drafting and signings and if they disagree it’s Art’s decision, and Dan used to be that. Got to wonder if Art is interjecting himself too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I watched a video where a reporter said Art has more say on the team than people realize a day before this news came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, warfelg said: I’m concerned the opposite way that Tomlin doesn’t quite have the level of autonomy we thought he had, and that many of the issues from a staff standpoint are Art Rooney II things not Tomlin things. I have a hard time buying that the 5th highest paid coach in American sport is a puppet. Rooney could save a boatload of money to hire someone else to inject his will. Same with Tomlin staying in that environment when he could literally go anywhere he wanted for whatever dollar amount and whatever power he desired. None of us really know the dynamic, but Rooney forcing a hire, Tomlin defending that hire a year later, and then Rooney overruling the coach and firing the hire he forced doesn’t flow very well. Why would Tomlin defend a hire he didn’t make if the owner who made the hire wanted him fired? I can’t remember if it was Nate Tice or Kevin Clark talking about the Steelers front office being one of, if not the most, collaborative in football from people inside the room. I have no doubt Rooney had influence, but I struggle to see him as Jerry Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, August4th said: I watched a video where a reporter said Art has more say on the team than people realize a day before this news came out. Great…. A jerry jones JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Dcash4 said: I have a hard time buying that the 5th highest paid coach in American sport is a puppet. Rooney could save a boatload of money to hire someone else to inject his will. Not puppet rather doesn’t have the level of autonomy we thought he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, warfelg said: Not puppet rather doesn’t have the level of autonomy we thought he had. But that leads to part two…why would Tomlin stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Dcash4 said: But that leads to part two…why would Tomlin stay? Get paid $10+ mil a year knowing even at average you will never be fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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