DefenseWinsChampionships Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Look at the chart. It has Rodgers, then $17m cap added with an extension, then on the far right it is -$31m. Goes on and on all the way down. Ok so please tell me exactly how much Available Salary Cap Space Green Bay would have at the end of that chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Ok so please tell me exactly how much Available Salary Cap Space Green Bay would have at the end of that chart? $1.1m after signing Adams and their draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: $1.1m after signing Adams and their draft class. Sounds impossible to me. And who's to say that all of those players are even WILLING to agree to renegotiating their current player contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Sounds impossible to me. And who's to say that all of those players are even WILLING to agree to renegotiating their current player contracts? This is typically built into their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Sounds impossible to me. And who's to say that all of those players are even WILLING to agree to renegotiating their current player contracts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, CAPJ said: This is typically built into their contracts. Shhh He doesn't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: Shhh He doesn't know. Nor does he realize Dalton Schultz is not a top 5 TE but I digress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, CAPJ said: 5 minutes ago, squire12 said: Shhh He doesn't know. Nor does he realize Dalton Schultz is not a top 5 TE but I digress. at least he is passionate about it, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 hours ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Don't throw no "chart" at me either; explain within your own words. Got some numbers to throw at you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 4 hours ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Please explain that what that chart means in simple form (I'm not an expert chart reader). Please tell me how much available Salary Cap Space all of those moves would free up? In other words, you're too lazy to try and read what he posted? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Sounds impossible to me. And who's to say that all of those players are even WILLING to agree to renegotiating their current player contracts? It's only impossible for you to believe because you listen to the talking heads that say so. Not to mention, most contracts have an auto-restructure as part of their contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Just so everyone is clear, the Cowboys cap for 2022 is fine because they have a bunch of players with big base salaries and future years already on the books. Green Bay has almost none of that. The chart above has exactly one player being restructured because restructure does not apply to anyone else on that list. The Packers have ZERO control over how these players rework their deals. Besides Clark (already reworked) the standard player contract restructure line is about as important as cheese hats or fake team stock when talking about Green Bay's 2022 cap. Pretending any of those players can be forced to help the Packers without agreement is just pretending. Lazard who will be a 5th year RFA will probably get the 1 year 3.9m at 2nd round tender and even then another team could steal him. Demand for him at original tender would be high. They have to buy him out of being a UFA next year. He's not there to do them favors and cost himself money. Kendrick Bourne just got 3 years 15 million last year and Lazard on GB > Bourne on SF. (not a knock on Bourne in NE who had a pretty good year) Edited February 26, 2022 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 6 hours ago, SkippyX said: Just so everyone is clear, the Cowboys cap for 2022 is fine because they have a bunch of players with big base salaries and future years already on the books. Green Bay has almost none of that. The chart above has exactly one player being restructured because restructure does not apply to anyone else on that list. The Packers have ZERO control over how these players rework their deals. Besides Clark (already reworked) the standard player contract restructure line is about as important as cheese hats or fake team stock when talking about Green Bay's 2022 cap. Pretending any of those players can be forced to help the Packers without agreement is just pretending. Lazard who will be a 5th year RFA will probably get the 1 year 3.9m at 2nd round tender and even then another team could steal him. Demand for him at original tender would be high. They have to buy him out of being a UFA next year. He's not there to do them favors and cost himself money. Kendrick Bourne just got 3 years 15 million last year and Lazard on GB > Bourne on SF. (not a knock on Bourne in NE who had a pretty good year) You are right that GB has fewer options on basic restructures. Lots of player cut /trade options to get under the cap should they decide to go the rebuild route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 FYI, Michael Thomas just got restructured. He was 15.35 8.9 .250 .200 for 24.7 He has 2 years left after this and they will likely add 2 voidable years. In a day or two this will give us a baseline for how much money can be pushed into voidable years. Note: Voidable years are fake years at the end of a contract used to spread some bonus money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: Note: Voidable years are fake years at the end of a contract used to spread some bonus money So basically the NBA stretch provision but without having to cut the player? Unavoidable dead cap in future years? Edited February 26, 2022 by adamq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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