Trojan Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 For example you have Kolton Miller, Ryan Jensen and Spencer Brown. Kolton has PFR AV of 6, 7, 8, 8 Ryan Jensen has PFR AV of 8, 8, 8, 9, 10 Spencer Brown has PFR AV of 6 I'm not positive, but I think you are a Packers fan so I'll post some Packers OL that have been drafted for comparison David Bakhtiari has PFR AV of 9, 9, 7, 16, 10, 14, 13, 15, 1 Corey Linsley has PFR AV of 9, 6, 6, 8, 7, 8, 13, 12 Elgton Jennings has PFR AV of 7, 11, 5 Josh Myers has PFR AV of 3 (the blog I linked explains the formula for offense in I think the first link, and starts is a factor which is why he'd be so low) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Trojan said: For example you have Kolton Miller, Ryan Jensen and Spencer Brown. Kolton has PFR AV of 6, 7, 8, 8 Ryan Jensen has PFR AV of 8, 8, 8, 9, 10 Spencer Brown has PFR AV of 6 I'm not positive, but I think you are a Packers fan so I'll post some Packers OL that have been drafted for comparison David Bakhtiari has PFR AV of 9, 9, 7, 16, 10, 14, 13, 15, 1 Corey Linsley has PFR AV of 9, 6, 6, 8, 7, 8, 13, 12 Elgton Jennings has PFR AV of 7, 11, 5 Josh Myers has PFR AV of 3 (the blog I linked explains the formula for offense in I think the first link, and starts is a factor which is why he'd be so low) So the higher the number the better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: So the higher the number the better? Yes, that’s ProFootballReferences metric, higher the better. But games missed always hurt the rating. You’ll never find a season with 5 or less games played and a 10 or better rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Like in theory the idea behind PFF rating is you get snap to snap a grade negative 2 to positive 2 (I think?) and as a result PFF will inflate some random players that are part time and quite good in limited role. PFR AV values things like starts and then applies multipliers (an All Pro in AV inflates it a lot, ie. Bahktiari's run -- then hurt few starts the 1 AV at the end). I like to post them side by side as AV, to me, helps contextualize when PFF makes a part time guy a top player. An example of that last sentence, and it's not the best example but I'm trying to use drafted players we can name, is Nate Hobbs who started 9 games for the Raiders at CB and for the Raiders in the cover 3 Seattle-y system Gus ran was quite good. He started 9 games and was mostly in nickel aligned on the slot. PFF has Nate Hobbs as the 5th highest graded CB. When you side by side to PFR's AV, he gets a 3. Neither grade has to be considered, but side by side you can see at least "Nate Hobbs is CB5" is controversial and he may be in limited snaps or special role, but in other metrics he's not that player. A realist would assume he's somewhere between the two then go back and make their own opinion. That said Jalen Ramsey is CB1 on PFF and has a 14 AV on PFR. Both more or less confirm that is a phenomenal player and you'd have to be cherry picking /nit picking to argue otherwise. Edited April 16, 2022 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I’ve been talking about Wynn since Round 9. It is incomprehensible to me that so many OTs have gone over him. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, SwAg said: I’ve been talking about Wynn since Round 9. It is incomprehensible to me that so many OTs have gone over him. Agreed. I was 50/50 between him and Lewan. I don't know how he lasted this long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Swag and I were considering Wynn for our next pick just for the pure value of it. Nice pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Yeah, Lukic back on his Illidan draft stilo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EaglesPeteC Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 @Forge OTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 We want Forge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, SwAg said: We want Forge! We like Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, SwAg said: We want Forge! Sorry, nothing interesting on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Forge said: Sorry, nothing interesting on this one. I'm always interested in every pick where someone doesn't take my guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: I'm always interested in every pick where someone doesn't take my guy Oh, who's your guy. It'll make my post a lot more interesting to go back and edit it with him instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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