AlexGreen#20 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said: No they were not good enough. Please spend the picks that you got in Davante trade on Receivers thanks Lazard led the league in targeted passer rating. What else can you possibly ask from a receiver??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: JuJu got a 1 year, 10.75 million dollar contract, that the Chiefs used his injury last year to load up with laughably easy incentives to push the bulk of his contract to next year. He didn't sign a 1/3 deal. Characterizing it like that is idiotic. Why would Julio take a 1 year deal? Especially a deal that's for essentially 1/11. Why would Tonyan take a 1 year deal for Peanuts? The TE market looks like he's going to get between 8-11. MVS is reported to be in the market between 7-9. Hooper just got 1 for 6 and he's not coming off an ACL. I originally had MVS at 7.5 and then saw the Juju news as I was typing. Maybe we give a similar incentivized deal to MVS. I'd be cool with that. Julio got a 1 deal because frankly I don't think anyone is going to offer him multi year one given his recent setbacks. Maybe I'm wrong. Edited March 19, 2022 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) I like to add Cole Beasely to start with. May be Joe Rogan can mediate Edited March 19, 2022 by Jaire_Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Jaire_Island said: I like to add Cole Beasely to start with Of course you do. Anytime you can sign a guy who last year: Didn't have a single completion of 30 yards or longer. Had a Y/Target < 7 Had a Y/Completion < 9 Had a 1st Down Conversion Rate below 50% Scored 1 TD Had a YAC/R < 4 Is going to be 33 years old Is incredibly undersized and can't block for **** You've got to do it, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Hooper just got 1 for 6 and he's not coming off an ACL. I originally had MVS at 7.5 and then saw the Juju news as I was typing. Maybe we give a similar incentivized deal to MVS. I'd be cool with that. Julio got a 1 deal because frankly I don't think anyone is going to offer him multi year one given his recent setbacks. Maybe I'm wrong. Hooper's last two years: 29 games: 131 targets/84 receptions (64.1%)/780 yards/7 TDs/54% 1st Down%/6.0 yards per target Tonyan's last two years 24 games: 88 targets/70 receptions (79.5%)/790 yards/13 TDs/49% 1st Down%/9.0 yards per target. Tonyan has 10 more yards and 6 more TDs in 5 fewer games. Tonyan slaughters Hooper in production. +++ MVS had 26 receptions in 2021. JJSS had 15. Those aren't comparable numbers to structure a contract off of. +++ You think Julio is so washed up that no team is going to give him a multi year contract. . . but are going to put him in as our #1 receiver. That makes **** all sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said: No they were not good enough. Please spend the picks that you got in Davante trade on Receivers thanks What? 43 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said: Alpha receivers make beta receivers look good If you dont have a alpha receiver these Lazzards are just borderline starters . What? 37 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Alpha QBs make average receivers look good. But we decided to look up our Beta QB for 3 more years, so what can you do. What? Can we please stop with hyperbole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Just now, ThatJerkDave said: Can we please stop with hyperbole? What? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Alpha QBs make average receivers look good. But we decided to look up our Beta QB for 3 more years, so what can you do. 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Lazard led the league in targeted passer rating. What else can you possibly ask from a receiver??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 So anyway, overall a big fan of the mock draft. So it seems the WRs have received most of the attention in the comments.I like the Julio pickup as an affordable bounce back option for a veteran player. Not a fan of MVS at all. Love the Olave pick. He's perfect for the scheme. There's been a lot of silliness going around about just how low one should value WRs in this offense. Way I see it, the scheme is designed so that receivers who run their routes well get open. Therefore we should be targeting WRs who can run routes well, have good hands to consistently catch the ball, and can then do something after the catch. Olave and Jones are perfect for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said: I like the draft. I think you are short changing the FA contracts. 3 hours ago, packfanfb said: I mean...I am pretty cheap 😉 Ya reports of MVS are at least 7 per from reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Alpha QBs make average receivers look good. But we decided to look up our Beta QB for 3 more years, so what can you do. Imagine thinking Rodgers us beta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Allen Lazard and MVS are good enough to be full time starters. On a bad team maybe. Neither start on a SB contending team. They are both #3's at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I always fall in love with the quick twitch WR that also has long speed. Jefferson, Hill before I knew what a POS he was, and now Olave. He’s pretty much that dude. Can’t see him missing unless there’s personality stuff I don’t know about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Imagine thinking Rodgers us beta He is a classic sigma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I find Rodgers does best when he has multiple recieving options that he can throw to. 6 WRs I even feel is too light. Our WRs have a history of injuries, IF this was the 6 man crew we had when was the last time they played a 16(17) game season? At this stage I'm not counting on much from Cobb and Amari, I would feel more comfortable with one more slot WRJulio - 2021 = 10 games, 2020 = 9 games, 2019 = 15 gamesOlave - rookieMVS - 2021 = 11 gamesCobb - 2021 = 12 games, 2020 = 10 games, 2019 = 15 games, 2018 = 9 gamesLazard - 2021 = 15 games, 2020 = 9 gamesAmari - 2021 = 16 games with 1 startBooby - coming off an ACL, probably not ready for start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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