TheRealMcCoy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Scalamania said: While I agree with most of what you’ve said but if Kelce plays 2 more years the Jurgens pick is going to look really bad, IMO. Do you expect Kelce to play past this year? I mean he could, but I was afraid he might retire this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Luketa and Purdy were probably gonna be UDFA guys they were in on I thought the same until Arizona took Luketa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheRealMcCoy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Makes sense. I think we might've sniped Cam Jurgens from some teams behind us who were hoping for him and I think Niners could have been one of those teams. Also, heard Arizona was in on him. Broncos at 64 also brought him in for a 30 visit as well as the Cowboys. I think SF is an ideal spot for Poe. Interested to see how he develops there. I'm sure Kyle could use him creatively as a FB and he could make the roster as a back-up center too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: 46 minutes ago, Scalamania said: While I agree with most of what you’ve said but if Kelce plays 2 more years the Jurgens pick is going to look really bad, IMO. Do you expect Kelce to play past this year? I mean he could, but I was afraid he might retire this off-season. Yeah, @Scalamania I think Kelce has been contemplating retirement for at least a couple years, but he's a big fan of Hurts and the kind of person he is and he talked on Bleacher Report about how he helped pick out Cam Jurgens, cause he was the center that most reminded him of himself went on to say how he wants to leave the team in a better place than when he got here. I have a strong feeling this is his swan song and I hope the Eagles as a team do everything in their power to get him back to the playoffs. That Bucs loss isn't the way I want to see his career go out. I want to win at least 1 more playoff game with him and send him out on a good note. I really don't think Kelce would want to block Jurgens path to playing time for an extra year. It just doesn't seem like him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Do you expect Kelce to play past this year? I mean he could, but I was afraid he might retire this off-season. I think Kelce will be allowed to play until "he wants" to retire. With or without his replacement on the roster ready to go. As a furure HOF'r , he's earned that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: I think Kelce will be allowed to play until "he wants" to retire. With or without his replacement on the roster ready to go. As a furure HOF'r , he's earned that IMO. You don't understand or misinterpreted. I'm not saying he hasn't earned the right to play until he wants to retire. Of course he does. That's obvious. I'm saying all the signs and knowing Kelce's character point to this being his last hurrah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folesadelphia Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Sirianni and Roseman both just said that they see Jurgens as position versatile. They think he can play guard as well as center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Folesadelphia said: Sirianni and Roseman both just said that they see Jurgens as position versatile. They think he can play guard as well as center. I don't mind him getting a chance to compete for the guard position / cross train, but I kinda just wanted him to sit for a year and only focus on center as he learns from Kelce in what is probably his last year here. But, yeah I saw exchange on Twitter last night: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Do you expect Kelce to play past this year? I mean he could, but I was afraid he might retire this off-season. I mean I don’t but I was responding to what he said about a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheRealMcCoy said: You all wanted to take Linderbaum in the top 10 and now Jurgens is C1. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Scalamania said: I mean I don’t but I was responding to what he said about a year or two. Gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles91 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: I don't mind him getting a chance to compete for the guard position / cross train, but I kinda just wanted him to sit for a year and only focus on center as he learns from Kelce in what is probably his last year here. But, yeah I saw exchange on Twitter last night: The pick is far better/more interesting if they truly think he has the versatility. Hope it's true. Drafting him solely to be the heir apparent to Kelce seemed like a bad job. Wasn't Dickerson the one to take up the mantle? How many Kelce replacements do you need to spend 2nd round picks on? The flexibility moving forward is far more palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Scalamania said: You all wanted to take Linderbaum in the top 10 and now Jurgens is C1. LOL. I definitely was not included in this. I had been laughing at mock drafts months ago that had Linderbaum going in the top 10 like 7th overall to the Giants. Total lunacy by people who don't realize how positional value is factored into things. I kept telling people on here that we didn't need to draft a center in the 1st round who would be redshirting. Day 2? That's a different story. I was waxing poetic about the options that would be out there in the 2nd or 3rd round that we could develop including Jurgens. I still think Linderbaum deserved to be C1 in this class. His tape was easily the most consistent, but he doesn't have the kind of power Jurgens has. Both are amazing athletes. Jurgens tested a little better, but its marginal. Jurgens is more scheme agnostic than Linderbaum. He has almost 2 inch longer arms than Linderbaum. Yes, he needs some work on being more patient with hand placement and footwork, but I think he went to the perfect situation and he can develop into C1 in Philly and with him learning as a rookie under Kelce and the best OL coach in the league. I'd feel pretty confident in Jurgens hitting his ceiling. Linderbaum is closer to a finished product. Also, if I may... lets be honest here. Linderbaum is tailor made for a ZBS. The Ravens weren't the best fit for him. There are a lot of other teams in the league that run more zone blocking run plays than the Ravens including your Philadelphia Eagles. Last year the Ravens ran zone blocking (IZ + OZ) on just 38% of their plays, meanwhile the Eagles ran zone blocking on 69% of their plays. Linderbaum wishes he went to Philly instead of Baltimore. Now, could the Ravens adjust their offense to accommodate him? Sure. Will they do it and if so... how much? No clue. I don't think its crazy to think Jurgens could become C1, but he wasn't on tape in college despite his tools. He took a big leap this past year according to PFF's grades on him over his 3 years starting and he landed in the perfect situation to hit his ceiling. Not to mention its been reported by a few people that there was multiple teams that had Jurgens as the best center in this draft class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 38 minutes ago, eagles91 said: Wasn't Dickerson the one to take up the mantle? No. People just assumed that. Dickerson is a better fit at guard. 39 minutes ago, eagles91 said: How many Kelce replacements do you need to spend 2nd round picks on? Just 1 which is what they did. Dickerson was drafted to be the Brooks replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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