Lions waive OT Greg Robinson

[ET80]

2 hours ago, bzane said:

@EliteTexan80- Trouble is, Robinson would have to play tackle for the Texans- zero chance at guard, with Xavier Su'a-Filo standing staunch in the middle, like the 300 Spartans guarding Thermopylae.

 

Oh, goodness no. Susan hits the bench. She's not good, not at all.

[Texansfan713]

13 hours ago, EliteTexan80 said:

Bring him to Houston. He can't be worse than Breno Giacomini or Chris Clark. Might be as bad, but you don't know unless you try him out right?

I co-sign.  Even if he sucks at tackle, try him at guard.  We need help!

[DistantRam]

17 hours ago, bzane said:

He was promoted as a bigger, stronger Orlando Pace, etc.; 

Erm, no he wasn't. Pace was one of the highest rated prospects ever; Robinson was all potential.

Having watched Adrian Clayborn run rings around Byron Bell yesterday, maybe the Cowboys might give GRob a call. He is rubbish but at least he's never given up six sacks in a  match.

 

[tom cody]

Remember him being picked #2. Seemed like an overpick for him at the time. Still he's talented enough to get a chance with another team.

[Texansfan713]

1 minute ago, tom cody said:

Remember him being picked #2. Seemed like an overpick for him at the time. Still he's talented enough to get a chance with another team.

I still don't get how he leapfrogged Jake Matthews during the draft process.

[footbull3196]

Not sure why people are acting like Robinson was good earlier this year.  I remember there being some buzz around him in preseason, but once the regular season hit it all seemed to come to an end.  He was consistently ranked among the worst tackles in the league by PFF and continued to commit penalties throughout the season

[riceman80]

On 10/9/2017 at 7:27 PM, riceman80 said:

Because I love to hate him...

Greg Robinson's stats in 51 career games(47 starts)...

62 penalties, 37 accepted for -314 yards, 137 pressures allowed, and 20 sacks allowed for -149 yards.

???

I posted this in the notable stats thread around week 4 or 5. I thank Greg Robinson for all the laughs his career has given me...

[Tugboat]

On 11/14/2017 at 3:20 AM, riceman80 said:

I posted this in the notable stats thread around week 4 or 5. I thank Greg Robinson for all the laughs his career has given me...

Those are some outrageous stats.  What potential!

[bzane]

On 11/13/2017 at 9:33 AM, DistantRam said:

Erm, no he wasn't. Pace was one of the highest rated prospects ever; Robinson was all potential.

Having watched Adrian Clayborn run rings around Byron Bell yesterday, maybe the Cowboys might give GRob a call. He is rubbish but at least he's never given up six sacks in a  match.

 

Erm, yeah, he was:

"Here’s how good Greg Robinson was supposed to be: The Rams selected him no. 2 overall in the 2014 draft before they took defensive-tackle-slash-destroyer-of-worlds Aaron Donald with their second first-round pick at no. 13. The Rams (and basically everyone else) believed that Robinson came with the potential to become the league’s next great left tackle, a dominating blindside protector in the mold of Jonathan Ogden or Orlando Pace"

https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/16/16040560/greg-robinson-los-angeles-rams-detroit-lions-offensive-line-busts-dc63ea1482f6

[bzane]

On 11/13/2017 at 9:49 AM, Texansfan713 said:

I still don't get how he leapfrogged Jake Matthews during the draft process.

At the time, there were howls about how dominating Greg Robinson would be:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2038699-greg-robinson-nfl-draft-2014-highlights-scouting-report-and-breakdown

"In Robinson, an NFL team is assured a truly elite run-blocking presence with tremendous upside to be an all-around dominating force at the NFL-level. "

[DistantRam]

7 minutes ago, bzane said:

https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/16/16040560/greg-robinson-los-angeles-rams-detroit-lions-offensive-line-busts-dc63ea1482f6

Look at the date on that article. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision but nobody at the time said Robinson was going to be in the same class as Pace, Ogden or Walter Jones. 

[bzane]

7 minutes ago, DistantRam said:

Look at the date on that article. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision but nobody at the time said Robinson was going to be in the same class as Pace, Ogden or Walter Jones. 

Hmmmm- well, here's some of what they were saying, at the time- Larry Allen, Walter Jones:

View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message M_Phillips Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 428 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:12 pm    Post subject: Greg Robinson Does he remind anyone of Jason Smith ?. Either way can you explain? _________________ Back to top BamaRam Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 661 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject:  If anything, his questions are the exact opposite of Smith's.  Smith didn't run block in college. He spent his rookie training camp learning how to play out of a three-point stance. He had no concept of second-level blocking or how to mirror pass rushers coming off the edge. He did not know how to set the boundaries of the pocket. Smith was literally just a good athlete (former tight end) who played out of a two-point stance in a gimmick offense. Greg Robinson is the best run-blocking LT I've seen come out since Jake Long.  Greg Robinson may have questions about the finer points of being a blind-side pass protector, but he is not nearly as raw as some make him out to be- and not a fraction as raw as Smith was. And the difference between Greg Robinson in September vs Greg Robinson in December was incredible and shows how quickly he is learning.  Then throw in the other stuff like Smith was a 23 year old who played in the big 12 and Robinson is 20 and played in the SEC..You see why Robinson is an elite prospect and Jason Smith was a Weeden-quality draft pick. Back to top Buckeyeboy89 Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 9861 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:36 am    Post subject:  It seems the opinions on Robinson are all over the place. I think this kid had HOF potential and will be a consistent stud for the next ten years. Now with that said he is extremely raw. He is a big physical strong human being with a good first step which is why he is a complete road grader. He is need some work on his footwork which will instantly make him a better pass blocker and make him feel more comfortable in his pass sets. _________________ Back to top KingBishop Joined: 29 Dec 2013 Posts: 8255 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:40 am    Post subject:  BamaRam wrote: If anything, his questions are the exact opposite of Smith's.  Smith didn't run block in college. He spent his rookie training camp learning how to play out of a three-point stance. He had no concept of second-level blocking or how to mirror pass rushers coming off the edge. He did not know how to set the boundaries of the pocket. Smith was literally just a good athlete (former tight end) who played out of a two-point stance in a gimmick offense. Greg Robinson is the best run-blocking LT I've seen come out since Jake Long.  Greg Robinson may have questions about the finer points of being a blind-side pass protector, but he is not nearly as raw as some make him out to be- and not a fraction as raw as Smith was. And the difference between Greg Robinson in September vs Greg Robinson in December was incredible and shows how quickly he is learning.  Then throw in the other stuff like Smith was a 23 year old who played in the big 12 and Robinson is 20 and played in the SEC..You see why Robinson is an elite prospect and Jason Smith was a Weeden-quality draft pick. From what I've observed I would say he's an even better run blocking LT than Jake Long was coming out _________________ Favorite Players in this Class:  David Njoku, Jourdan Lewis, Steven Taylor, Tedric Thompson, Marlon Mack, Brian Hill, OJ Howard, Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Marcus Williams, Eddie Jackson  Deforest Buckner is the best player in the 2016 draft class Back to top KingBishop Joined: 29 Dec 2013 Posts: 8255 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:41 am    Post subject:  Godzilla Greg just plows through defenders as if they were Tokyo _________________ Favorite Players in this Class:  David Njoku, Jourdan Lewis, Steven Taylor, Tedric Thompson, Marlon Mack, Brian Hill, OJ Howard, Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Marcus Williams, Eddie Jackson  Deforest Buckner is the best player in the 2016 draft class Back to top TommyC376 Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 10981 Location: Capital Wasteland Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:41 am    Post subject:  Robinson is a raw prospect with all world potential, his ceiling is higher than Jake Robinson but his floor is also lower as well. Robinson is a great run blocking athlete. He could easily step in and be a LT for 10+ years, or he could fail at LT and still be a very good LG.  He is going to be a good player in the NFL, we just dont know how good he will be. _________________ Back to top Buckeyeboy89 Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 9861 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:45 am    Post subject:  TommyC376 wrote: Robinson is a raw prospect with all world potential, his ceiling is higher than Jake Robinson but his floor is also lower as well. Robinson is a great run blocking athlete. He could easily step in and be a LT for 10+ years, or he could fail at LT and still be a very good LG.  He is going to be a good player in the NFL, we just dont know how good he will be. If I were a NFL GM I would draft this kid and Start him at RT because of his elite run blocking skills. IT would also give me time to help develop his pass blocking skills before eventually moving him to LT. _________________ Back to top catcheryea Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 5776 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Greg Robinson M_Phillips wrote: Does he remind anyone of Jason Smith ?. Either way can you explain? No. Why? He's better. _________________ SHAQ IS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY  Back to top BamaRam Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 661 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject:  KingBishop wrote: BamaRam wrote: If anything, his questions are the exact opposite of Smith's.  Smith didn't run block in college. He spent his rookie training camp learning how to play out of a three-point stance. He had no concept of second-level blocking or how to mirror pass rushers coming off the edge. He did not know how to set the boundaries of the pocket. Smith was literally just a good athlete (former tight end) who played out of a two-point stance in a gimmick offense. Greg Robinson is the best run-blocking LT I've seen come out since Jake Long.  Greg Robinson may have questions about the finer points of being a blind-side pass protector, but he is not nearly as raw as some make him out to be- and not a fraction as raw as Smith was. And the difference between Greg Robinson in September vs Greg Robinson in December was incredible and shows how quickly he is learning.  Then throw in the other stuff like Smith was a 23 year old who played in the big 12 and Robinson is 20 and played in the SEC..You see why Robinson is an elite prospect and Jason Smith was a Weeden-quality draft pick. From what I've observed I would say he's an even better run blocking LT than Jake Long was coming out I would tend to agree. Long was the most recent who was close. Back to top big_palooka Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 25678 Location: ATL Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject:  Buckeyeboy89 wrote: It seems the opinions on Robinson are all over the place.  I think this kid had HOF potential and will be a consistent stud for the next ten years. Now with that said he is extremely raw. He is a big physical strong human being with a good first step which is why he is a complete road grader. He is need some work on his footwork which will instantly make him a better pass blocker and make him feel more comfortable in his pass sets. Can we not do this?  Can we reserve the "HOF potential" statements for when said prospect is a young player in the NFL making an impact. Only then can we say he has that potential amongst his peers.  Sorry..... such a pet peeve of mine. Great talent, sure. Mass potential, fine. But putting a coveted HOF label on someone who's never taken an NFL snap is just ridiculous. _________________ Back to top MSURacerDT55 Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 7641 Location: 8 mile by way of St. Clair E.99 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject:  I do agree with the poster above, but he has the skills to be Jackie Slater 2.0 _________________ @CoachHam6455 Back to top bulger2holt Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 2250 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:37 pm    Post subject:  Reminds me of Larry Allen. Just a pure man-beast Back to top Raider X Joined: 07 Sep 2013 Posts: 2994 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject:  bulger2holt wrote: Reminds me of Larry Allen. Just a pure man-beast +1  Point of attack is a boom! Both are fast and strong. Back to top Rich7sena Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 6859 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject:  I think he has All-Pro potential at guard. I see Walter Jones potential there. Back to top Rrrrrrrams Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 1480 Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject:  https://twitter.com/RUSSLANDE/status/461205558343639040  hey, we need a russell lande thread. 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[bzane]

13 minutes ago, DistantRam said:

Look at the date on that article. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision but nobody at the time said Robinson was going to be in the same class as Pace, Ogden or Walter Jones. 

Well, here's an article on Robinson and Jake Matthews from 2014:

https://www.si.com/2014/04/08/greg-robinson-jake-matthews-nfl-draft

" Robinson has all the tools and has shown the potential in the pass game; if teams feel he can learn and work at his craft, then Robinson could be an all-time great. It’s a question of how long that will take, and where do you play him in the interim (Robinson would be a devastating left guard for a year or two). Former Rams left tackle Orlando Pace, who likely will be elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015, is the player whom Robinson is most often compared with in league circles because of his physicality in the run game."

[Crickett]

Greg Robinson was an example of a team making the same mistake twice.  They decided to take potential over the more polished prospects with Jason Smith ahead of Andre Smith and Eugene Monroe and they did the same thing selecting Greg Robinson over Jake Matthews. 

[bzane]

19 minutes ago, DistantRam said:

Look at the date on that article. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision but nobody at the time said Robinson was going to be in the same class as Pace, Ogden or Walter Jones. 

Just after the Rams drafted Robinson in 2014:

"The Rams also don't have a history of selecting offensive linemen in the first round; Robinson becomes the third in franchise history, joining Jason Smith and Orlando Pace. Because of their similarities in size and skill set, the comparisons between Robinson and Pace already have begun.

"I heard a lot of things that they compared me to him," Robinson said. "He's a great player. Just being compared to a player like that – it feels good."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/05/08/draft-second-2nd-pick-st-louis-rams-ol-ot-og-greg-robinson-auburn/8873573/