JAF-N72EX Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MonserinNC said: Not at all....our TE group is straight up good, really it's just up to Kmet to step it up another level....our 1-2 punch at RB is the best in the division, and kind of top half of the league...... we drafted a bunch of OL......and finally, I don't know why we act like Mooney is a question mark, 1600 yards is a legit #1 WR I appreciate the enthusiasm but lets come back to reality. Our TE group is not good at all. Kmet is the only notable player there. I like Kmet's potential, but right now he's only that......potential talent.....not proven. Our backfield is solid. There are 4 question marks on the OL---potential is there but unproven. Mooney being a true #1 is question mark for a reason. He hasn't proven that he is one yet. I like his potential to step up and become one but lets hold down the legit #1 Wr talk for now. Edited May 10, 2022 by JAF-N72EX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 hours ago, MonserinNC said: Not at all....our TE group is straight up good, really it's just up to Kmet to step it up another level....our 1-2 punch at RB is the best in the division, and kind of top half of the league...... we drafted a bunch of OL......and finally, I don't know why we act like Mooney is a question mark, 1600 yards is a legit #1 WR The TE group is straight up good? Because of Cole Kmet and.. Ryan Griffin and James O'Shaughnessy? Good god this fan base has low expectations Stop overrating David Montgomery The OL were all drafted in rounds 5-7. If one of those guys are good I'll be happy Mooney has 1600 yards in his career. He isn't a #1 (yet) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: The TE group is straight up good? Because of Cole Kmet and.. Ryan Griffin and James O'Shaughnessy? Good god this fan base has low expectations Stop overrating David Montgomery The OL were all drafted in rounds 5-7. If one of those guys are good I'll be happy Mooney has 1600 yards in his career. He isn't a #1 (yet) Well he was a 1,000 yrs guy last year but whatever As far as the TEs, outside of the obvious Kittles of the world, who has a better group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, MonserinNC said: Well he was a 1,000 yrs guy last year but whatever As far as the TEs, outside of the obvious Kittles of the world, who has a better group? You do know that Ryan Griffin and James O'Shaughnessy are nobodies who absolutely suck, right? Is what you're asking: "outside of the teams with actual talent at TE, who's group is better?" Good lord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, MonserinNC said: Well he was a 1,000 yrs guy last year but whatever As far as the TEs, outside of the obvious Kittles of the world, who has a better group? Baltimore Buffalo Dallas Atlanta Arizona Miami Kansas City Detroit Cleveland New England Jacksonville Las Vegas Green Bay ? Philly San Fran Pittsburg ? Tampa ? Seattle I would probably swap TEs with all of those teams. I like your enthusiasm but come on Bruh. Edited May 10, 2022 by Bigbear72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Mooney has 1600 yards in his career. He isn't a #1 (yet) That’s true. But he was also top 20 in receptions and yards last year (just his 2nd) which makes the “he’s only a 3” narrative just as wrong (not saying that’s from you, but it’s definitely commonly out there). He might be a 1. He’s already more than a 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) There's one football to go around and it sounds like we want to be a run-first team. Montgomery Herbert Fields Ebner Mooney Kmet Jones Jr. Pringle Who the **** cares about TE2-3. Edited May 10, 2022 by G08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, G08 said: There's one football to go around and it sounds like we want to be a run-first team. Montgomery Herbert Fields Ebner Mooney Kmet Jones Jr. Pringle Who the **** cares about TE2-3. May very well be important if Kmet goes down. We are not certain how this OC is going to scheme TE. Additionally, you are just looking at this from a receiving TE point of view. With uncertainty on the OL a decent blocking TE is probably also going to be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bigbear72 said: May very well be important if Kmet goes down. We are not certain how this OC is going to scheme TE. Additionally, you are just looking at this from a receiving TE point of view. With uncertainty on the OL a decent blocking TE is probably also going to be a factor. We're fine at blocking TE with our depth brochacho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, G08 said: We're fine at blocking TE with our depth brochacho. That wasn't the point that I was making, however, I award you points anyway for the use of the word "brochacho". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Bigbear72 said: May very well be important if Kmet goes down. We are not certain how this OC is going to scheme TE. Additionally, you are just looking at this from a receiving TE point of view. With uncertainty on the OL a decent blocking TE is probably also going to be a factor. If we scheme TE like GB did then it’s a secondary type option. Even in 2020 when Tonyan had a big season he had 52/586/11 on just 59 targets. That’s entirely not sustainable. When he got hurt last year they had a bunch of guys each pick up some slack. I think Griffin has shown over his career that he’s capable of being a receiving outlet / check down option if Kmet were to go down. GB also hasn’t had a TE with Kmet’s skill set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: If we scheme TE like GB did then it’s a secondary type option. Even in 2020 when Tonyan had a big season he had 52/586/11 on just 59 targets. That’s entirely not sustainable. When he got hurt last year they had a bunch of guys each pick up some slack. I think Griffin has shown over his career that he’s capable of being a receiving outlet / check down option if Kmet were to go down. GB also hasn’t had a TE with Kmet’s skill set. I would say Tonyan is every bit the receiver Kmet is, arguably better. Tonyan was a converted QB and has been getting steadily better with each season. He got hurt last year. I thought Bears should have made an offer in offseason. He signed pretty cheap I think ... 3.75. So not super cheap. Keep an eye on him next year. He will be UFA again. Local kid too. Actually my former boss' nephew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: GB also hasn’t had a TE with Kmet’s skill set. I remember kinda liking Jace Sternberger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, G08 said: I remember kinda liking Jace Sternberger... Didn’t they cut him already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, AZBearsFan said: If we scheme TE like GB did then it’s a secondary type option. Even in 2020 when Tonyan had a big season he had 52/586/11 on just 59 targets. That’s entirely not sustainable. When he got hurt last year they had a bunch of guys each pick up some slack. I think Griffin has shown over his career that he’s capable of being a receiving outlet / check down option if Kmet were to go down. GB also hasn’t had a TE with Kmet’s skill set. GB ran 2 TE sets (12 personnel) 29% of the time (312 plays), which was 2nd most in the league behind Brian Flores' whopping 61%. The league average was 21%. Conversely, GB only ran 3 WR sets (11 personnel) 61% of the time (651 plays), which is about average.2021 CHI: 10 per (1%)---11 per (65%)---12 per (24%)---13 per (6%)---21 per (1%) GB: 10 per (4%)---11 per (61%)---12 per (29%)---13 per (2%)---21 per (2%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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