Joe Barry'd again

[Packerraymond]

Just now, Mazrimiv said:

Barry has graduated from

     "this defense will get shredded by LAC, DET and KC"

to

     "this defense will get shredded by <insertrandomteamname> in the playoffs"

The progress is undeniable.

What did the defense do well last night? LVN won a great rep and saved one drive, Gary won another and saved the next. Next two drives? Carved up and down the field. Nixon saves the last drive (already in our territory) to win the game. The Chiefs scored on all 4 of their first drives.

Chiefs offense beat the Packers defense. They just didn't beat it as handedly as our offense beat the Chiefs defense.

[Leader]

1 minute ago, Packerraymond said:

What did the defense do well last night? LVN won a great rep and saved one drive, Gary won another and saved the next. Next two drives? Carved up and down the field. Nixon saves the last drive (already in our territory) to win the game. The Chiefs scored on all 4 of their first drives.

Chiefs offense beat the Packers defense. They just didn't beat it as handedly as our offense beat the Chiefs defense.

This ^

It's time for change.

 

Edited December 4, 2023 by Leader

[beekay414]

3 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

Barry has graduated from

     "this defense will get shredded by LAC, DET and KC"

to

     "this defense will get shredded by <insertrandomteamname> in the playoffs"

The progress is undeniable.

They did get shredded by 2 of those teams lol

[{Family Ghost}]

29 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

His contract expires after the year. He'll be replaced.

Hope so .. I want a more creative and aggressive scheme.  

[Packerraymond]

I can't believe we've invested like 32 first round picks in this defense, we're not terrible, and now we're all for the DC.

No **** we make plays, the whole D is top 30 picks.

[incognito_man]

5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

What did the defense do well last night? LVN won a great rep and saved one drive, Gary won another and saved the next. Next two drives? Carved up and down the field. Nixon saves the last drive (already in our territory) to win the game. The Chiefs scored on all 4 of their first drives.

Chiefs offense beat the Packers defense. They just didn't beat it as handedly as our offense beat the Chiefs defense.

I'd say what the defense did well, but you already listed some of it.

I suspect all good DCs have players that make plays for them?

[incognito_man]

Guys, it's ok to also recognize when things change...

The defense is unquestionably changed recently. Let's acknowledge it and discuss why. Denying it is just dumb.

[Packerraymond]

1 minute ago, incognito_man said:

I'd say what the defense did well, but you already listed some of it.

I suspect all good DCs have players that make plays for them?

100% scoring percentage is good defense to you?

[Packerraymond]

Just now, incognito_man said:

Guys, it's ok to also recognize when things change...

The defense is unquestionably changed recently. Let's acknowledge it and discuss why. Denying it is just dumb.

Takeaways. 

[incognito_man]

1 minute ago, Packerraymond said:

100% scoring percentage is good defense to you?

context matters.

if they're FGs? then, yep, and that will all be reflected in DVOA.

[Mazrimiv]

4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

What did the defense do well last night?

• LVN won a great rep and saved one drive.
• Gary won another and saved the next.
• Critical 3 and out in Q4
• INT on next Q4 drive
• Nixon saves the last drive to win the game.

Of KC's seven possessions in the game, I count 5 successful results.

[incognito_man]

1 minute ago, Packerraymond said:

Takeaways. 

that's a part of it. but just a part.

and is accounted for in DVOA.

[LacyIsGood]

Chiefs did a great job taking advantage of the different fronts the Packers showed.  Running in passing looks, and passing and using screens in run looks.  But the Nixon pick was on Mahomes trying to take advantage of a 1 on 1 vs a 5 DL front (which I love).  Dropping 8 on 3rd and long was not good.  

My guess is the Packers could have been much more aggressive on defense with a healthier CB group.  And making QBs throw contested passes against them will be interesting.

[beekay414]

And I thought baseball was the only sport you can be inept 70+% of the time and be labeled a success lol.

[Packerraymond]

3 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

that's a part of it. but just a part.

and is accounted for in DVOA.

Are we stopping the run? Are we getting off the field on 3rd down? 

Nothing has changed. The offense is more successful, giving the D a breather and eating more TOP. The defense has had some clutch 1-1 rush reps to get off the field in key moments. We're still letting teams move the ball at will.