MSURacerDT55 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 hours ago, jrry32 said: Will McDonald EDGE Iowa State This is my guy right there, I hate the front he plays in but is one heck of a football player with a lot of tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 McDonald will be 24 in June. He has some good tools as mentioned but give me the younger prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Scoundrel said: So I’ll get some heat for this and I’m not even saying he will be as good but it’s fine. I have been watching both of their college highlights and while he doesn’t look as quick or as long there are some plays where Tuli’s play looks like college JJ Watt. Christ.... can we retire this comparison? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Christ.... can we retire this comparison? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Scoundrel said: there are some plays where Tuli’s play looks like college JJ Watt. Love when people don’t read or comprehend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Van Ness reminds me of the EDGE version of George Kittle. Big, athletic, and super underutilized at Iowa. He's got a really good chance of being a way better NFL player than he was in college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: This is my guy right there, I hate the front he plays in but is one heck of a football player with a lot of tools Why was his production so low this year, went from 10.5 sacks in 2020 and 11 sacks 5 forced fumbles in 2021 which was awesome, only had 5 sacks this past year. He is pretty weak at the point of attack and not very well holding the edge either, he is a 3/4 OLB all the way, he could not hold up as a down DE in a 4/3 at all. Not sure he has that athletic twitch as say Nick Herbig, Byron Young or Richard Jibunor and he seems kind of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 14 hours ago, Ozzy said: Why was his production so low this year, went from 10.5 sacks in 2020 and 11 sacks 5 forced fumbles in 2021 which was awesome, only had 5 sacks this past year. He is pretty weak at the point of attack and not very well holding the edge either, he is a 3/4 OLB all the way, he could not hold up as a down DE in a 4/3 at all. Not sure he has that athletic twitch as say Nick Herbig, Byron Young or Richard Jibunor and he seems kind of light. I like his tools and what he could do in the right scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 I’m seeing Mike Morris all over the place. I’m not a tape watcher, but he’s never really stuck out to me when I watch UM highlights. His measurables are off the charts, but is he a player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I’m seeing Mike Morris all over the place. I’m not a tape watcher, but he’s never really stuck out to me when I watch UM highlights. His measurables are off the charts, but is he a player? Overrated by some on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Opinions on Tyree Wilson? I see him in the range for the Lions at #6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, General Tso said: Opinions on Tyree Wilson? I see him in the range for the Lions at #6 Stellar prospect, will only get hotter after he runs like a 4.5 and jumps out of the building at the combine. Pretty raw, but elite strength, speed, and power at the line of scrimmage, and can move well enough when he drops back in coverage to not be a huge liability. A little natural bend. I think in the end, he's the second Edge off the board, but he definitely needs some seasoning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, General Tso said: Opinions on Tyree Wilson? I see him in the range for the Lions at #6 Thought he looked overrated after my initial watch. Stiffer than I expected he would be, based on what I had read. Good straight line athlete with nice power, but I don't think he's very nimble/loose in the hips, kinda like Clowney. Saw more of a 6-7 sacks guy with good run D vs a 10+ sack guy. Edited January 9, 2023 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 11:46 AM, General Tso said: Opinions on Tyree Wilson? I see him in the range for the Lions at #6 I get Marcus Davenport vibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 12/22/2022 at 9:47 AM, jrry32 said: I started evaluating some of the Late Day 1/Day 2 guys. Here are my preliminary thoughts: 1. Nolan Smith EDGE Georgia - Very intriguing. Gives tons of effort, disciplined against the run, outstanding athlete with legit cover skills, has some pop in his hands, plays bigger and stronger than you expect against the run, and when Georgia turns him loose, he flashes some bend and cornering. Doesn't have a ton of true pass rush snaps, as UGA asked him to play a more calculated and disciplined role, so pass rush is a bit of a projection. But he has the tools. Wish he was a little bigger, as I have some concerns about how he'll fare as a true EDGE against OTs who can engulf him with size and power. Could be a stellar OLB in a system that wants a hybrid player (rusher and off-the-ball backer). Has huge amount of upside as an EDGE too. I'm struggling to come up with a comparison. Maybe Julian Peterson or Jamie Collins (when he was motivated and playing well). 2. B.J. Ojulari EDGE LSU - He's better than Azeez was as a prospect imo. I understand why he's being talked about as a second rounder, but I think he's going to vastly outplayed his draft spot if he lands there. He's explosive off the LOS, he's twitchy, he's very bendy and consistently is able to play under blocks, and he gives relentless effort. Yes, he's a finesse guy who hasn't shown any sort of consistent power game. Yes, he's not going to be a plus run defender. But he has an outstanding motor and plays hard on run downs, so he's not a guy who will kill you there either. (Although, teams can use his aggressiveness against him.) At the end of the day, this is a passing league, and he's a dude who can give you double digit sacks. And he's not a one-trick pony as a pass rusher. He's finesse, but he's savvy, utilizes a lot of different moves and techniques, and has the twitch and quickness to win inside if OTs try to cheat outside. He reminds me of post-breakout Shaq Barrett. 3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah EDGE Kansas State - He's still figuring things out, but he has the tools to be an impact guy. Explosive off the snap with a legit power game. Has enough bend to corner and flatten. Uses his hands well, even if he doesn't have a diverse set of pass rush moves or a developed pass rush plan at this point in time. Gives great effort. He defends the run relatively well. He's a strong dude who can hold his ground and set the edge. Could get better at identifying where the ball is going and figuring out how to defeat the blocking scheme, but again, the tools are there to be a quality run defender. If he develops, he's a good to very good player in both run defense and pass rushing. Brian Orakpo is the guy who came to mind for me if Felix develops well. 4. Derick Hall EDGE Auburn - Great movement skills and very difficult to move in the running game, but I felt his pass rush was too reliant on effort and power. Face up pass rusher who didn't corner or bend well imo. I feel like he's a lesser version of Jermaine Johnson from last year. Physical, strong dude who can run. He'll defend the run for you. He'll get pressure on the QB through effort, power, and relentlessness, but I'm not sure what the pass rush upside is. Might be more of a glue guy than a difference maker. 5. Zach Harrison EDGE Ohio State - Didn't blow me away. You can see the tools. He's fast and explosive in a straight line. He's a strong dude. But he didn't seem very natural. I didn't feel he made the same impact as the other guys I watched. I can understand why a team will take a shot on him, but he wasn't my cup of tea. 6. Isaiah McGuire EDGE Missouri - Powerful and physical guy with hands that shock the OL and more cornering ability than you expect, but he's not overly explosive or fast. I felt like his effort came and went too. When he was engaged, he was capable of bullying the guy across from him. But the motor seemed to run hot and cold. Seemed like a better fit as a 4-3 DL. Next on the list: 1. Jared Verse EDGE FSU 2. Byron Young EDGE Tennessee 3. Mike Morris EDGE Michigan 4. Isaiah Foskey EDGE Notre Dame 5. Will McDonald EDGE Iowa State 6. Laiatu Latu EDGE UCLA This is very informative and useful as I start to delve into these guys, thanks 🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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