bigbadbuff Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, RaidersAreOne said: Do you worry his play is going to skydive given he is 32 next month? And changing schemes may hurt him too? Or is he truly just so damn good he should continue to excel for years to come. I don’t think it’s going to sky dive, but as there is with any player that age you have the risk of that happening. He is coming off of his “worst” year with the Bills, but he was also asked to do a ton more with Hyde breaking his neck in September, Tre White being out until thanksgiving, and rookies, and Hamlin playing around him, all while having a busted elbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 hours ago, TankWilliams said: I'd be pretty surprised if the Bears didn't make a big push for Edmunds I get the need, but they didn't want to pay Roquan. But they will want to pay for Edmunds??? You think the Smith trade was more about the picks and less about the money? Genuinely curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I get the need, but they didn't want to pay Roquan. But they will want to pay for Edmunds??? You think the Smith trade was more about the picks and less about the money? Genuinely curious. I feel like those two should be in different sand boxes when it comes to how much they get paid though. Roquan wanted the top of the market and was a two time second team all pro to support it. Not a knock on Edmunds, who has been a pro bowl player, but I feel like he should come in at a figure closer to CJ Moseley than Fred Warner and Roquan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Forge said: I feel like those two should be in different sand boxes when it comes to how much they get paid though. Roquan wanted the top of the market and was a two time second team all pro to support it. Not a knock on Edmunds, who has been a pro bowl player, but I feel like he should come in at a figure closer to CJ Moseley than Fred Warner and Roquan. ...not saying you are wrong. But...a name like Edmunds is going to be paid, LARGE, on the open market. My point is still there, though, why would Chicago pay Edmunds in free agency, when they will have to spend LARGE for him, as opposed to just keeping Roquan? The only thing my brain can wrap it's head around is the picks. 2nd and 5'th maybe? Like they just really wanted picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Just now, vegas492 said: ...not saying you are wrong. But...a name like Edmunds is going to be paid, LARGE, on the open market. My point is still there, though, why would Chicago pay Edmunds in free agency, when they will have to spend LARGE for him, as opposed to just keeping Roquan? The only thing my brain can wrap it's head around is the picks. 2nd and 5'th maybe? Like they just really wanted picks? Isn't Roquan Smith his own agent? That might have soured things too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Just now, General Tso said: Isn't Roquan Smith his own agent? That might have soured things too. I can't remember. But there was something like that. Maybe there was someone helping him out who may not have been, uh, very helpful. But either way, Roquan got what he wanted out of Baltimore. And I think he felt disrespected in Chicago at their contract offer. So again I'm back to....Chicago didn't want to pay Smith what he thought he was worth. But they may Edmunds? Personally, I think the Bears are going to roll with lesser players in the middle, contract wise. Sanborn was outstanding for them for a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: I get the need, but they didn't want to pay Roquan. But they will want to pay for Edmunds??? You think the Smith trade was more about the picks and less about the money? Genuinely curious. As mentioned, there were other factors at play with Roquan. It was pretty clear that he didn't want to stay with the Bears, it was less about not wanting to spend money on him. Him acting as his own agent made negotiations pretty amateurish and the negotiations degraded from there. At a certain point I think he knew the Bears weren't going to give him exactly what he wanted but it became more of an ego thing that he didn't want what they were offering just because he couldn't separate how he felt personally from the business side of things. They certainly weren't and aren't short on cap space. Edited March 8, 2023 by TankWilliams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 The Cards had the 31st ranked defense and will likely be losing their 3 best defenders; Watt retiring and it doesn’t look like Murphy or Allen will be back. We could be looking at a historically bad defense next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Edmunds having his best season in a contract year as a secondary member to an elite defense… Exactly the type of guy you don’t overpay for in FA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: The Cards had the 31st ranked defense and will likely be losing their 3 best defenders; Watt retiring and it doesn’t look like Murphy or Allen will be back. We could be looking at a historically bad defense next year. Is Simmons available? Plz say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 44 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Edmunds having his best season in a contract year as a secondary member to an elite defense… Exactly the type of guy you don’t overpay for in FA. Don't think you'll find a Bills fan who isn't happier keeping Milano over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, RaidersAreOne said: Is Simmons available? Plz say yes. Probably. He’s pretty mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Probably. He’s pretty mediocre. But a god in Madden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, DirtyDez said: The Cards had the 31st ranked defense and will likely be losing their 3 best defenders; Watt retiring and it doesn’t look like Murphy or Allen will be back. We could be looking at a historically bad defense next year. I’d surmise Jalen Carter would need to kill someone to take him off of Arizona’s draft board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 22 hours ago, ET80 said: QUIT MAKING ME RELIVE THAT DAY!!! Hey, I could have liked your misery the day of. Instead, I chose to wait until an opportune moment to look back where we could "one day laugh about it". I was also too busy establishing that prayer group for you back then and missed an opportunity to be a part of the most liked post on FF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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