Eagles27 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Don't see any way Iwakuma makes the team if his fastball is still in the low to mid 80's. He starts in Tacoma, and maybe gets a shot if there's an injury. Probably opts out or retires if he's still there after a month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 We non-tendered Shae Simmons for some reason. Smyly as well, but that was an obvious move. Nothing to show for Gohara, Vargas, Burrows, and Yarbrough now. What a terrible trade in hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viewsfromthe206 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Ohtani looks even more real now. Edited December 4, 2017 by Viewsfromthe206 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Viewsfromthe206 said: Ohtani looks even more real now. Yeah, feeling pretty confident now. More than 80% likely he's coming to Seattle, IMO. We get Otani and then sign Darvish, we will be in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Mesa_Titan said: Yeah, feeling pretty confident now. More than 80% likely he's coming to Seattle, IMO. We get Otani and then sign Darvish, we will be in business. I'm not anywhere near ready to say we have an 80% chance, though I'm trying to hold back my excitement at this point. This could be a franchise altering signing if it happens. There was a report last week that said he didn't want to sign in a market with an established Japanese star, so I'm a little worried he's leaning towards the Giants/Padres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 We gon' do it boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 It's a risky deal, but if Gordon is decent in CF I really like this deal. I like Niedert, but I think swapping him straight up for Gordon is fair. Torres for the 1 million is probably fine as well. Never heard of Dugger. If Ohtani doesn't sign after all this it will be pretty devastating. A lot of speed at the top of the lineup now which should be fun to watch. CF Gordon SS Segura 2B Cano DH Cruz 3B Seager RF Haniger 1B Healy LF Gamel C Zunino Still hopefully enough money to add 1 SP in free agency too. Vargas, Chacin, Tillman, Hellickson, etc. Someone like that probably would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Seems like Ohtani knew from the start where he was going to go. Is that location Seattle? I mean I imagine he grew up idolizing Ichiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 hours ago, ninjapirate said: Seems like Ohtani knew from the start where he was going to go. Is that location Seattle? I mean I imagine he grew up idolizing Ichiro. Hopefully. Things are pointing in our direction, but him picking someone else would be the most Mariners thing ever. This franchise loves to raise our hopes and then mercilessly crush them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Well, that pretty much ends my season before it even starts. Be lucky if I watch 20+ games this year unless we get off to some amazing start. Pretty much at my breaking point with this team, we've sucked for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 We're pretty screwed to be honest. Dipoto has traded most of the farm and will have nothing to sow for it but a third place team with a bunch of overpriced players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haha21 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dipoto should be fired for gutting the farm the way he has. We literally have Kyle Lewis and Carlson and that's about it. I think we need to tear it all down and do a complete rebuild. I don't see this team making the playoffs, Cano and Cruz are getting older, and Felix is a shell of himself. We need to somehow get out from under their contracts and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Haha21 said: Dipoto should be fired for gutting the farm the way he has. We literally have Kyle Lewis and Carlson and that's about it. I think we need to tear it all down and do a complete rebuild. I don't see this team making the playoffs, Cano and Cruz are getting older, and Felix is a shell of himself. We need to somehow get out from under their contracts and move on. Felix and Cano are pretty much unmovable. Dipoto has been overly-aggressive in trading away prospects and it has backfired big time now. The moves themselves aren't all terrible, but we're probably not even going to get a playoff appearance out of them. A re-build is probably the best course for the future of the franchise, but we're probably locked into being mediocre for the next 2-3 years. Hopefully if they don't overachieve this year and sneak into a WC spot; the club gives up on this group next offseason. We could still re-stock the farm by trading Paxton, Seager, Segura, & Diaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Eagles27 said: Felix and Cano are pretty much unmovable. Dipoto has been overly-aggressive in trading away prospects and it has backfired big time now. The moves themselves aren't all terrible, but we're probably not even going to get a playoff appearance out of them. A re-build is probably the best course for the future of the franchise, but we're probably locked into being mediocre for the next 2-3 years. Hopefully if they don't overachieve this year and sneak into a WC spot; the club gives up on this group next offseason. We could still re-stock the farm by trading Paxton, Seager, Segura, & Diaz. Exactly what he did in Anaheim. As a fan you convince yourself it's not terrible since he's mostly selling off the mid to lower tier guys in your system but he trades so damn much that in the end he eventually guts your farm depth and leaves you incredibly thin. Once injuries strike you're left with little to no depth to fill the void(which leads to him making more short-sighted trades to fill said voids). The thing with Dipoto is that he's very engaging with the media and fans and is an impressive speaker. He keeps fans clued into what the team is looking to do so fans feel like part of the process. He's always been a guy who believes in advanced statistics and analytics. He says all the right things and it makes you buy-in, but the end results are never there Mariners really would be wise to move on from him before he does more long-term damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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