Rich7sena Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 If the Raiders aren't in a position to draft a QB in round one, I really like Cooper DeJean from Iowa. He's my early-on CB/DB1 and reminds me of Jalen Ramsey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: If the Raiders aren't in a position to draft a QB in round one, I really like Cooper DeJean from Iowa. He's my early-on CB/DB1 and reminds me of Jalen Ramsey. He's awesome. 2nd this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 11:26 PM, Humble_Beast said: I'm pissed we passed on Chiefs Pacheco to draft Britain Brown. Should have skipped on drafting Zeus and Brown and landed Pacheco ....... because you knew who he was in round 7 right? Easy to say these things in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Rich7sena said: I do not understand the McCarthy hype. From what I've seen, he has an average to below-average NFL arm and only okay athleticism. He reminds me of Daniel Jones. How much have you seen!?! Because those are two of the most off base statement I've seen regarding McCarthy. He has an absolute cannon for an arm and can rip it on the run. He has elite velocity and can make throws a lot of QBs can't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, big_palooka said: ....... because you knew who he was in round 7 right? Easy to say these things in hindsight. I did. He stood out. NYRaider and I did a gm simulator on this site that year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 I’m really liking Round 1: DT: Jer’zhan Newton or Leonard Taylor Round 2: Edgerrin Cooper LB plus signing Jaylon Johnson would transfer the defense… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarrodR86 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 If AOC can play respectable and not look below average for the remainder of the season, it may allow us to bypass using a first on a QB and McZieg may have left us with a nice parting gift.. Sure he looks a bit combine Brady out there, body wise, but I thought he showed well.. that bomb to Tucker was a beautiful throw and the short to intermediate passes definitely had more Velo than JG but we know his arm looks shot. NYJ D gonna be a nice test for the rook! Would be nice to hit on a good first round DT/CB/LB and continue to build the D though. I was hoping for a Harbaugh/McCarthy combo if we finished in the 6-10 pick range, but man, AP is gonna be hard to move away from if we finish .500 or better.. his identity and passion just oozes “Raider”, confident but humble, but let’s see how we battle the next 8 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManWillis Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I've said this before but man I'm just not a fan of Williams mental makeup. Yes elite passing abilities, but mentally I'm getting red flags. Since the first time I watched him, the guy just screams prima Donna, me first attitude. I'm willing to fall on this sword. Raiders pick him and it's gona be a horrible match. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Jer'Zhan Newton or JJ McCarthy in the first for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 14 hours ago, JarrodR86 said: If AOC can play respectable and not look below average for the remainder of the season, it may allow us to bypass using a first on a QB and McZieg may have left us with a nice parting gift.. Sure he looks a bit combine Brady out there, body wise, but I thought he showed well.. that bomb to Tucker was a beautiful throw and the short to intermediate passes definitely had more Velo than JG but we know his arm looks shot. NYJ D gonna be a nice test for the rook! Would be nice to hit on a good first round DT/CB/LB and continue to build the D though. I was hoping for a Harbaugh/McCarthy combo if we finished in the 6-10 pick range, but man, AP is gonna be hard to move away from if we finish .500 or better.. his identity and passion just oozes “Raider”, confident but humble, but let’s see how we battle the next 8 games. I think AOC's ceiling is fairly limited tbh, he's not dynamic in any way, shape or form. A game manager type can work for a stacked team but I think you're sacrificing a lot passing on a QB this year in hopes he becomes an average starter. I want the franchise guy in the building that we can build around for the next decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I think AOC's ceiling is fairly limited tbh, he's not dynamic in any way, shape or form. A game manager type can work for a stacked team but I think you're sacrificing a lot passing on a QB this year in hopes he becomes an average starter. I want the franchise guy in the building that we can build around for the next decade. I keep thinking this too, but I always come back to quarterbacks like Joe Burrow. There are a ton of NFL quarterbacks that are and have been elite based off nothing but their ability to quarterback at a high level. It's the only thing that gives me hope for AOC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 hours ago, big_palooka said: How much have you seen!?! Because those are two of the most off base statement I've seen regarding McCarthy. He has an absolute cannon for an arm and can rip it on the run. He has elite velocity and can make throws a lot of QBs can't. It's all framing. If he balls vs ohio state and in the playoffs he's going top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: It's all framing. If he balls vs ohio state and in the playoffs he's going top 5. Subtly hoping he somehow stays under the radar selfishly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 All this JJ McCarthy talk has me intrigued. I haven't watched a second of him. The more QBs in this draft the better. Either we'll be lucky and one will fall to us or other elite players do with QBs going high. Win/win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, NickButera said: I keep thinking this too, but I always come back to quarterbacks like Joe Burrow. There are a ton of NFL quarterbacks that are and have been elite based off nothing but their ability to quarterback at a high level. It's the only thing that gives me hope for AOC. The modern game is changing though, most of the top QBs in the league are pretty mobile now with huge arms. Obviously there are some exceptions with guys like Tua and Burrow but those dudes have unreal accuracy. I'd love for AOC to become GOATed, I just have my reservations and I think passing on a potential franchise QB because of him could hurt us long term. Thankfully it looks like we have 8 more games to evaluate him going into the off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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