{Family Ghost} Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: TBH, fantasy points for QBs isn't a half-bad ranking system. I bet Allen, Hurts and Lamar are also in the top 5 (if not the top 3). Top 10 is: Allen Hurts Jackson Prescott Love Purdy Mahomes Goff Mayfield Tua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) On 1/2/2024 at 11:39 AM, Mazrimiv said: Next year's pre-season QB rankings on this site should be amusing, with the majority of non-GB fans still in denial that Love is legit. Can you blame them? lol. Imagine being a fan of one of these teams that haven't had an elite QB in like 30 years (especially Chicago) when the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs and now looks to be back to back to back good/great QBs. I'd be in denial too. Then on top of it, it also looks like gutey may have just replicated something similar to the guys below after they all tried to say Love would suck and so would non first round pass catchers. It has to feel like a bad dream you can't wake up from. Edited January 4 by Arthur Penske 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 hoping for a juicy 2024 Jordan Love MVP betting odds line this offseason just looking at this offense, how they're finishing, and the talent ...long whistle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, incognito_man said: hoping for a juicy 2024 Jordan Love MVP betting odds line this offseason just looking at this offense, how they're finishing, and the talent ...long whistle I know it's probably a fool's errand but also hoping the refusal by soem to accept him somehow factors into Love's contract #s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Gotta hand it to Love and his supporting cast. They have us on the brink of securing a spot in the post season. Not done yet, but didn't think we'd be here. Tip of the cap to them. 👍👍👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 52 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: This group only making one SB appearance seems crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: This group only making one SB appearance seems crazy. Yeah they had some HORRENDOUS defenses during that time frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: TBH, fantasy points for QBs isn't a half-bad ranking system. I bet Allen, Hurts and Lamar are also in the top 5 (if not the top 3). 1. Allen 2. Hurts 3. Lamar 4. Dak 5. Love 6. Purdy 7. Mahomes 8. Goff 9. Baker 10. Tua 11. Howell 12. Russ Mahomes was a complete and utter bust for where he was drafted. Love, Purdy, Baker were all big time league winners considering they were drafted late or undrafted. Especially Love, as his success continued in the playoffs. This is why I always go QB late, and preferably TE late too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: Top 10 is: Allen Hurts Jackson Prescott Love Purdy Mahomes Goff Mayfield Tua Beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Dumb naive question. Does Jordan Love drop back deeper than Rodgers? If so, what is logic, pros-and-cons, in doing so? Sincere question, I'm trying to learn and understand better. My perception is that Love is often looking and throwing from ~10-12 yards behind the line, on shotgun snaps. Rodgers I thought tended to more ~8-9 yards. Am I imagining things, and there is no difference? Does being a little taller (6'4" vs 6'2") just make longer step-back strides? Does deeper drop enable better perception of pass-rush? Can better see whether either tackle is caving or is getting looped, without needing to take eyes off receivers? Does being a little deeper just require more time for rush to there? I'm probably just imagining, but yeah, it just kinda looks like Love is back further; so when a tackle is getting beat Love is just a little further removed from damage, with a little more time to see the pressure developing and respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 28 minutes ago, Kepler said: Yeah they had some HORRENDOUS defenses during that time frame. So like I said, elite QB and Pass catchers in 2023 and a horrendous defense. Time is a flat circle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Arthur Penske said: So like I said, elite QB and Pass catchers in 2023 and a horrendous defense. Time is a flat circle Hopefully they will learn something this time around and make big strides on that side over the off season. Getting kinda tired of hoping that it happens every year though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I gotta say, the 10 year 400 million dollar contract I wanted to give Love prior to his extension looks pretty darn good right about now doesn't it. He might still take it if we can get the guarantees up to where Lamar and DeShaun are with guaranteed money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Can you blame them? lol. Imagine being a fan of one of these teams that haven't had an elite QB in like 30 years (especially Chicago) when the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs and now looks to be back to back to back. I'd be in denial too. Then on top of it, it also looks like gutey may have just replicated something similar to the guys below after they all tried to say Love would suck and so would non first round pass catchers. It has to feel like a bad dream you can't wake up from. No wonder Rodgers was pissed at the end. His best WR/TE group only had 6 studs. LOL Love is going to have 8 next year: Watson, Doubs, Reed, Wicks, Heath, Melton, Musgrave and Kraft. Unless we draft another one! 🙂 Edited January 3 by Old Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonKarman Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Old Guy said: I gotta say, the 10 year 400 million dollar contract I wanted to give Love prior to his extension looks pretty darn good right about now doesn't it. He might still take it if we can get the guarantees up to where Lamar and DeShaun are with guaranteed money. It'd be great if he where to accept a 10-year 500M contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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