Louis Friend Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 5 hours ago, General Tso said: You are using the Quinntricia trades as a measuring stick. I think LAR is better at talent evaluation then them. Let's see what Jamo does before the trade deadline. My point is, teams trade players for a number of reasons, a trade alone does not dictate talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 He is probably cooked, but he has a minimum cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, General Tso said: He is probably cooked, but he has a minimum cap hit. I think he is a locker room liability imo. You want to bring in players but fine line to not disturb the culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: I think he is a locker room liability imo. You want to bring in players but fine line to not disturb the culture. If we didn't draft Jalen Carter, definitely won't trade for this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, General Tso said: If we didn't draft Jalen Carter, definitely won't trade for this guy. Carter had concerns if he would even see the field at some points in predraft. Not same case but I do concur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, General Tso said: He is probably cooked, but he has a minimum cap hit. I suspect the Lions feel pretty good about their EDGE depth. Romeo Okwara is still a solid player. Charles Harris hasn't been consistent but is decent and we are getting Josh Pascal back soon. If they make a trade it will probably be for a CB to improve their depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: I suspect the Lions feel pretty good about their EDGE depth. Romeo Okwara is still a solid player. Charles Harris hasn't been consistent but is decent and we are getting Josh Pascal back soon. If they make a trade it will probably be for a CB to improve their depth. How should they feel good? there is no pass rush outside Hutch. It's the biggest issue this defense has None of those players listed would be more than bench fodder on most decent pass rush charts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: How should they feel good? there is no pass rush outside Hutch. It's the biggest issue this defense has None of those players listed would be more than bench fodder on most decent pass rush charts The Lions tend to change it up a the other edge position. I think they have a fair amount of confidence in Josh Pascal. John Cominsky also gives them some solid play at DE. It wasn't obvious but Romeo Okwara had a solid game against Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Just Want A Title said: The Lions tend to change it up a the other edge position. I think they have a fair amount of confidence in Josh Pascal. John Cominsky also gives them some solid play at DE. It wasn't obvious but Romeo Okwara had a solid game against Carolina. Look at the numbers. The only one getting pressure is Hutch. The DTs are doing well too. Nobody else off the edge 2.5 sacks off the edge outside Hutch. Not counting sacks from second level. Pure edge outside Hutch is pure trash. They need upgrade there and in worst way, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: Look at the numbers. The only one getting pressure is Hutch. The DTs are doing well too. Nobody else off the edge 2.5 sacks off the edge outside Hutch. Not counting sacks from second level. Pure edge outside Hutch is pure trash. They need upgrade there and in worst way, As I said, I think the Lions are counting in Josh Pascal to step into that role once he comes back. One thing to take into consideration: The Lions were somewhat passive with respect to the pass-rush. Now that they have changed things up I suspect we will see more from the depth EDGE players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Don't forget James Houston coming back, probably after the bye. They'll treat that as a "trade acquisition." So I agree a CB in some kind is probably what we're looking for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: Look at the numbers. The only one getting pressure is Hutch. The DTs are doing well too. Nobody else off the edge 2.5 sacks off the edge outside Hutch. Not counting sacks from second level. Pure edge outside Hutch is pure trash. They need upgrade there and in worst way, The Lions D-Line is getting pressure. Their issue is that they stay engaged in their blocks too long. This is something we have been seeing a lot this year. If they can do a better job of disengaging with their blockers sooner sacks will start happening in bunches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, General Tso said: Don't forget James Houston coming back, probably after the bye. They'll treat that as a "trade acquisition." So I agree a CB in some kind is probably what we're looking for. We also just got Julian Okwara back from injury and although he has never been great, he did have a solid pre-season rushing the passer. He may get a shot with Houston out. Not to say he is good, but he has given us about what Frank Clark has the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: We also just got Julian Okwara back from injury and although he has never been great, he did have a solid pre-season rushing the passer. He may get a shot with Houston out. Not to say he is good, but he has given us about what Frank Clark has the last couple of years. I am not advocating for Frank. I would want someone more of asset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, General Tso said: Don't forget James Houston coming back, probably after the bye. They'll treat that as a "trade acquisition." So I agree a CB in some kind is probably what we're looking for. If they do not look at DE because of Houston coming back that is a fail. I would be totally shocked and heavily disappointed if they did not add a DE. It is a more glaring need. DE pressure helps the secondary too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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