Soko Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, stl4life07 said: I was thinking the same thing but apparently it’s true. How is it apparently true if we have definitive proof that it isn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I know where I want the niners bye week next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, stl4life07 said: I was thinking the same thing but apparently it’s true. It's misleading, because the 49ers were tied with the Rams at 17-17 entering the 4th. The Rams took the lead with 2 minutes to go. So the 49ers actually capitalized on a worse scenario which the stat doesn't highlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Are y'all just not reading the tweet or something? The guy on here said (erroneously) it was 5+ points, but in reality the stat is 8+ points. This is just meant to highlight that if you go into the 4th quarter leading a Kyle Shanahan team by a touchdown or more, your odds of winning are virtually 100%. It also highlights that when Kyle Shanahan's offense has to just drop back and pass, it becomes very mediocre. It's not saying anything about last minute heroics or GWD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Yes 8+ is max one possession. Any TD lead on any team entering the 4th is a victory about 95% of the time. "Down eight at any time" is difficult to search, but there is info for "down 8+ at the start of the 4th quarter". Since 2017, the 49ers, Commanders, Seahawks, Jets, and Cowboys all have not won a game when they were down at least 8 to start the fourth. Technically, the Jets are the worst there (0-45), while the Seahawks are the best (0-23). The best team in those situations is, unsurprisingly, the Chiefs: 3-7, or .300 The Steelers (6-19) and Packers (6-21) are 2nd, and 3rd best. Quickly browsing the Montana rolodex within the catacombs of my headscape, he only had 3 such games I can think of where he overcame an 7+ (max 1 possession for his era) deficit in the 4th. '80 vs. Saints, '83 at Rams, '89 at Rams. Don't think he had any as a Chief. Just goes to show that even with the mightiest of the mightiest, the odds are still unremarkable. Going back to Shanahan, 0-36 for 8+ is still pretty bad. Even if half of that is Hoyer, Mullens, Beathard games. You'd think with as imaginative as Shanahan has been as an OC, and play designer his offenses would have been able to circumvent that at least one time in 7 seasons. Alas, his offensive brand of football is not ideal to going pass heavy when it's paramount. Still heart him as our head honcho though Edited October 25, 2023 by TecmoSuperJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Niners Nation stand the hell up. No team has ever won the Super Bowl while losing to Kirk Cousins. LFG. another year for the gang gang to lose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, El Ramster said: Niners Nation stand the hell up. No team has ever won the Super Bowl while losing to Kirk Cousins. LFG. another year for the gang gang to lose. I totally want to see if that is a real stat lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_allday2869 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Forge said: I totally want to see if that is a real stat lol I'm pretty sure it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, Forge said: I totally want to see if that is a real stat lol It’s 100% a real stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, El Ramster said: It’s 100% a real stat. here's another one... only twice in NFL history has a QB: had 35+ completions completed 75% of his passes thrown a 60 yard td pass taken 0 sacks one was Kirk Cousins against SF last night. the other was Kirk Cousins on Thanksgiving 2016. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, El Ramster said: Niners Nation stand the hell up. No team has ever won the Super Bowl while losing to Kirk Cousins. LFG. another year for the gang gang to lose. ah geez, we have 2 chances at him to ruin our season.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 8:29 PM, StatKing said: This game has all the makings of a Kirk Cousins classic. Ironic like is ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just took a look at the 49ers backups oof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said: Just took a look at the 49ers backups oof. Shanahan got positive epa with Nick mullens. I don't think Darnold will be worse than that. At least dear God I hope not 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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