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Ray Reed Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 hours ago, DawgX said: @Ray Reed is kind of cool too. He kind of sucks, but he's kind of cool at the same time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: It goes back to expectations vs. reality. BAL was picked to win the division with double digit wins and they did just that. Therefore the 'impressivness' of their season doesnt shine as bright as others. Its what happens with a established good coach and a capable roster Incorrect - the Bengals were favored to win the AFC North at the start of the season. EDIT: Also, I'll add that the Ravens preseason win total was 10.5 and the Browns was 9.5. Thus far the Ravens are 1.5 games above the Browns, and therefore have exceeded expectation to a greater degree than the Browns. But if the Ravens lose Sunday they will be tied. Edited December 29, 2023 by AngusMcFife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Soggust said: I'm just trying to get to a 2x Harbaugh coty over a 2x Stefanski coty. Unfortunately, I can't really argue the facts of the case, nor the letter of the law, against Stefanski this year. So, I'm just pounding on the table and trying to confuse the jury with alternative ideas. The only way Stefanski loses this award is if locker room audio is released of him praising Al Qaeda's organization and teamwork during 9/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Bachelor08 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I would give the award to Kevin Stefanski. First team in NFL history to clinch a playoff spot while starting 4 different quarterbacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Chamging to Kevin Stefanski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Chamging to Kevin Stefanski This has to loom large in the minds of voters. That was terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 For me, the two clearest coach of the year candidates are Sean McVay and DeMeco Ryans. Both had preseason win over/unders of 6.5, and got 10 wins to make the playoffs. I'm not really sold on Stefanski simply because the Browns were projected to win 9.5 wins and be a wild card team. They outperformed their projection by 1.5 games. That's not even the best overachievement in the division. The Ravens were projected to be a wild card with an over/under of 10.5 wins, and they won 13 and were the most dominant team in the entire league and 1 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, AngusMcFife said: For me, the two clearest coach of the year candidates are Sean McVay and DeMeco Ryans. Both had preseason win over/unders of 6.5, and got 10 wins to make the playoffs. I'm not really sold on Stefanski simply because the Browns were projected to win 9.5 wins and be a wild card team. They outperformed their projection by 1.5 games. That's not even the best overachievement in the division. The Ravens were projected to be a wild card with an over/under of 10.5 wins, and they won 13 and were the most dominant team in the entire league and 1 seed. Feel like you forgot a major piece the puzzle here. Stefanski wont be considered because the Browns won 11 games. He will be considered because they won 11 games with the highest % of salary cap on IR in the NFL and winning games with 4 different starters and playing 5 different QBs total. Thats averages to be a different QB every 3.5 games of the season. He hit the grand slam Win a game with a rookie QB Win a game with a XFL QB Win a game with a overpaid creeper Win a game with a dad off the couch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Feel like you forgot a major piece the puzzle here. Stefanski wont be considered because the Browns won 11 games. He will be considered because they won 11 games with the highest % of salary cap on IR in the NFL and winning games with 4 different starters and playing 5 different QBs total. Thats averages to be a different QB every 3.5 games of the season. He hit the grand slam Win a game with a rookie QB Win a game with a XFL QB Win a game with a overpaid creeper Win a game with a dad off the couch If Stefanski had taken a rag-tag group of offensive players and coached them up to an average unit, that would have been remarkable. But their offense was genuine garbage (28th in DVOA). Their success is due to having an awesome defense, which he doesn't coach. I'm just not going to credit him for with evaluating his backup QBs so poorly that he had to call up Flacco to save the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, AngusMcFife said: If Stefanski had taken a rag-tag group of offensive players and coached them up to an average unit, that would have been remarkable. But their offense was genuine garbage (28th in DVOA). Their success is due to having an awesome defense, which he doesn't coach. I'm just not going to credit him for with evaluating his backup QBs so poorly that he had to call up Flacco to save the season. Yes, because the head coach isn't responsible for the team as a whole, right? Does he get no credit for hiring Schwartz? Lazy take. Again, we get you don't like Stefanski. It's painfully obvious any time you post about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Th Ravens rotate their 3rd and 4th OTs in the game regularly with little drop off from the starters and had a top 5 offense. Am I supposed to be in awe of Cleveland using their 4th and 5th tackles on their way to a bottom 5 offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Only Anus would think Harbaugh has done a better coaching job than Stefanski this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, AngusMcFife said: Th Ravens rotate their 3rd and 4th OTs in the game regularly with little drop off from the starters and had a top 5 offense. Am I supposed to be in awe of Cleveland using their 4th and 5th tackles on their way to a bottom 5 offense? Are we going to pretend rotating your backup OTs often is the same thing as having to start them and then also losing depth behind them? Cleveland also has historically used their backup OTs often under Stefanski. Big difference in starting your third string RT and a LT who was signed off the street midway through the season. Another dumb take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, DawgX said: Only Anus would think Harbaugh has done a better coaching job than Stefanski this season. I don't, though. Ryans and McVay are my clear choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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