Dub_City30 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) On 1/10/2024 at 2:58 PM, El Ramster said: You’re probably one of those people that BELIVE in draymond and klay are still top 3 in their position. Without Deebo more attention would be to Brandon. Who again, isn’t anything special. In a division loaded with WRs he’s not 1, 2,3 or even 4th. If they hate let em hate and watch the money pile up. Not really Dray and Klay are washed lmfao Edited January 12 by Dub_City30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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General Tso Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 ASRB isn't a Pro Bowler 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, NoFlyZone said: Because he clearly, right now, is playing at a higher level than a handful of receivers he just got lumped in with. Some of those players have never quite played on the same level That's fine. That's what a tier is. Some guys are a little better than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2024 at 10:21 PM, MaddHatter said: Amazing that over 45% of ARSB’s yards are YAC and drops under 2%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/10/2024 at 9:59 PM, Ozzy said: Inconsistent? Pickens almost had more yards receiving as a rookie than Nico Collins did his first two years in the NFL. So yeah both are a bit unproven but I find it funny to call a guy with two very solid seasons to start his NFL career inconsistent, yeah sure on Georgia he was inconsistent and injured a lot but clearly is an elite talent and has never had an elite QB either in the NFL. Pickens is one of the most inconsistent players in the NFL. Dude’s a knucklehead, to boot. Talented, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Soko said: Pickens is one of the most inconsistent players in the NFL. Dude’s a knucklehead, to boot. Talented, though. How exactly is he "inconsistent"? Dont get me wrong, he has his flaws and yes, is really immature....but it feels like people ignore the fact that he had perhaps the worst OC in the NFL in the last decade and bottom 5 QB play since coming into the league....and still managed pretty damn good numbers. The vast majority of his "inconsistencies" stem from failure to simply get the ball into his hands. Matt Canada even admitted that he was okay using Pickens as a decoy and not giving him the ball if it would open up opportunities in other areas of the offense. Put him with even an average QB and OC and he is putting up at least 1400/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 43M said: How exactly is he "inconsistent"? Statistically, targets, getting open, effort, maturity. Pretty inconsistent. Edited January 13 by Soko 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, 43M said: How exactly is he "inconsistent"? Dont get me wrong, he has his flaws and yes, is really immature....but it feels like people ignore the fact that he had perhaps the worst OC in the NFL in the last decade and bottom 5 QB play since coming into the league....and still managed pretty damn good numbers. The vast majority of his "inconsistencies" stem from failure to simply get the ball into his hands. Matt Canada even admitted that he was okay using Pickens as a decoy and not giving him the ball if it would open up opportunities in other areas of the offense. Put him with even an average QB and OC and he is putting up at least 1400/10. Totally agree, he has played with very below average QBs his entire two years much less a revolving door at QB really. Plus like you said really bad OC coaching and play calling as well. The dude is a freak show talent wise and if he is this good with bad OC coaching and QB play think how much better he could be with good OC coaching and QB play. The guy has had great success in the league so far considering he never really showed this in college, freshman year was great but that was followed by two bad/injuried seasons as a SOPH and JR. To be as successful as he has been now, that is impressive considering he was so raw and not really proven coming into the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/13/2024 at 2:50 AM, 43M said: On 1/12/2024 at 8:29 PM, Soko said: How exactly is he "inconsistent"? Look at all his advanced analytics. Mr. Inconsistency, and overall skirts by on athleticism. All the big time fantasy players wanted nothing to do with him, although did mix him in a bit because his athleticism can cause a huge spike week. He did end up on the winning 3M team, due to his Week 16 spike advancing that team to Week 17. But he was a solid bust most of the year as many suspected. He is not an efficient player, and that wouldn’t change with different QB play. Hard to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Tank4Drake said: Look at all his advanced analytics. Mr. Inconsistency, and overall skirts by on athleticism. All the big time fantasy players wanted nothing to do with him, although did mix him in a bit because his athleticism can cause a huge spike week. He did end up on the winning 3M team, due to his Week 16 spike advancing that team to Week 17. But he was a solid bust most of the year as many suspected. He is not an efficient player, and that wouldn’t change with different QB play. Hard to explain. Such a laughably bad analysis with your two main arguments being "look at advanced analytics" that almost always lack context and "he just is", which is on par with such stone clad arguments like "Nuh uh". If you made an ACTUAL substantive argument regarding what supposedly makes him so inefficient, Id be willing to have that conversation....but you didnt even begin to attempt one. And to say that his efficiency wouldn't improve with better QB play and better playcalling discredits any opinion you have on this matter, because youre either just hating or you have literally zero idea what youre talking about. Ive already admitted he has several flaws in his game and is immature, which could absolutely hold him back going forward. But to suggest factors like QB play haven't massively hurt his efficiency is just...wow. If you want the actual "Mr Inconsistent" among Steelers WRs, you're looking at the wrong guy. Dionte Johnson is like modern day Brandon Lloyd and has been for years. And for the record, I dont have an issue with labeling him inconosistent in general. My issue is ignoring the ACTUAL reasons for those inconsistencies and pretending that factors outside of his own shortcomings haven't played a massive part in said inconsistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Drop Lamb a tier - he was MIA entire first half with two huge drops and then spent the second half only getting the bare minimum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Puka over CEE Dee get at me. Real Ballers ball in the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy86 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 For what it's worth, here are PFF's WR ratings for the year. With the minimum snap count removed it is almost identical, the only difference being GB's Bo Melton who exploded at the end of the year being in between Keenan Allen and Jamarr Chase at 85.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1. Justin Jefferson 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Ja'Marr Chase 4. AJ Brown 5. Ceedee Lamb 6. Amon-Ra St. Brown 7. Davante Adams 8. Stefon Diggs 9. Puka Nacua 10. George Pickens Inb4 "but why isnt my favorite teams #1 WR listed as a top 10 WR?!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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