TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, GW21 said: One of our beat writers mentioned Pete Carroll, which I think would be hilarious and set our fan base ablaze for a while. Probably depends on the age range. For the younger crowd, it would be funny seeing all of the shock that he was actually not only the 49ers DC in 1995, but a SF native. Would love Pete Carrol back in the saddle as DC. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenK Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: Probably depends on the age range. For the younger crowd, it would be funny seeing all of the shock that he was actually not only the 49ers DC in 1995, but a SF native. Would love Pete Carrol back in the saddle as DC. Would be cool if he could convince Sherman to coach with him. I know he’s spoken about coaching, but I don’t know if there’s a bad relationship with Sherman/Carrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I just don't see them hiring someone that Kyle can't micro manage when needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, Forge said: I just don't see them hiring someone that Kyle can't micro manage when needed A younger guy that would feel both like it was an opportunity to show out/learn and would owe Shanahan allegiance and a bit of say has worked twice already. I agree that it should be a linebacker guy with zone specialization if possible. That’s why we have Fred and the corners we do and the safeties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, Forge said: I just don't see them hiring someone that Kyle can't micro manage when needed I kind of disagree. I think Shanny wants someone that he doesn't have to worry about micro-managing so he can concentrate fully on offense. I think by time both Saleh & Ryans were in their last season with us as DC, they had proven that and allowed Shanny to focus more on the offensive side of the ball. I think he wants a turn-key hire. Somone who he doesn't have to constantly look over their shoulder and wonder if they're seeing what he's seeing from a game-planning perspective. I realize I could be dead wrong about this because he does have a tendency to promote from within. But that really seems to be only on the offensive side of the ball, where he runs the show regardless of who is named OC. Ryans was in-house but Shanny said from jump that he always thought highly of Ryans and that he was grooming him to be a HC one day. So, a move to DC once Saleh left was inevitable imo. But going outside the organization and hiring Wilks sort of proves my point. I don't think the any of other assistants on the defensive side were ready to be promoted. And being a year removed from Ryans departure, I'm not sure if that's changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: Probably depends on the age range. For the younger crowd, it would be funny seeing all of the shock that he was actually not only the 49ers DC in 1995, but a SF native. Would love Pete Carrol back in the saddle as DC. Yeah for sure. I was more referring to Pete coming here from the Seahawks, and like you said, most people not knowing his history here. I will say that he has been the most annoying coach to me personally over the last decade being that he was up in Seattle and they were constantly working us over. After the Richard Sherman experiment, I will say that I am much more open to something like this though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 57 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: I kind of disagree. I think Shanny wants someone that he doesn't have to worry about micro-managing so he can concentrate fully on offense. I think by time both Saleh & Ryans were in their last season with us as DC, they had proven that and allowed Shanny to focus more on the offensive side of the ball. I think he wants a turn-key hire. Somone who he doesn't have to constantly look over their shoulder and wonder if they're seeing what he's seeing from a game-planning perspective. I realize I could be dead wrong about this because he does have a tendency to promote from within. But that really seems to be only on the offensive side of the ball, where he runs the show regardless of who is named OC. Ryans was in-house but Shanny said from jump that he always thought highly of Ryans and that he was grooming him to be a HC one day. So, a move to DC once Saleh left was inevitable imo. But going outside the organization and hiring Wilks sort of proves my point. I don't think the any of other assistants on the defensive side were ready to be promoted. And being a year removed from Ryans departure, I'm not sure if that's changed. We will see. I don't think Kyle can help himself from micro managing and being involved. Having someone he can actually turn it over to without worry would probably do wonders for him. But it doesn't have to be an internal hire to be someone to micro manage either. I think any young guy getting a first crack at it applies. I think shanny wants the stuff runs his way, and first time coordinators allows him to groom them in the way he wants the defense called. Drastic changes to scheme also leads to potential transition years, and even though shanny said he'd be open to it, that's a hell of a risk in a rapidly closing window. The fact that he has to be open to a scheme change also kind of tells you what you need to know about how he feels about where he stands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 58 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: I kind of disagree. I think Shanny wants someone that he doesn't have to worry about micro-managing so he can concentrate fully on offense. I think by time both Saleh & Ryans were in their last season with us as DC, they had proven that and allowed Shanny to focus more on the offensive side of the ball. I think he wants a turn-key hire. Somone who he doesn't have to constantly look over their shoulder and wonder if they're seeing what he's seeing from a game-planning perspective. I realize I could be dead wrong about this because he does have a tendency to promote from within. But that really seems to be only on the offensive side of the ball, where he runs the show regardless of who is named OC. Ryans was in-house but Shanny said from jump that he always thought highly of Ryans and that he was grooming him to be a HC one day. So, a move to DC once Saleh left was inevitable imo. But going outside the organization and hiring Wilks sort of proves my point. I don't think the any of other assistants on the defensive side were ready to be promoted. And being a year removed from Ryans departure, I'm not sure if that's changed. The thing is, those two (Saleh/Ryans) were first time coordinators so Shanny was able to groom them over the years. He was able to give his input and made those two adjust to what he wanted to do. The problem is when you have proven coordinators, they have their own philosophy and it's not as easy to make changes. Shanny's best quality is his eye for assistant coaches. His coaching tree is as big as it is for a reason and he knows who he can coach up and these and who he cannot. Now, a guy like coach Turner is someone you don't say nothing to because he's one of the best to ever do it at his gig. Others? You do need to have more of a say and they need to be willing to adjust to his style. Carroll and Belichick are just a big no no. Those coaches are even more proven than Shanny and it would not be a great fit. The players will also be kind of stuck because they may have just as much, if not more respect for those two than they would Shanny. He's going first year coordinator here or a young coach. There is a reason Fangio chose Miami over us or maybe Shanny decided he did not want Fangio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 14 hours ago, Melbourne 9er said: We've been trying to get a decent receiving TE2 for years. Why don't we just use Jennings as TE2 and get a new 3rd receiver? I started looking in to the FA TEs, because I'm with you and would like someone who can be a real option in the pass game- Charlie sprung some big plays with his blocking but is far from what we had in Jordan Reed years ago as a RZ threat. but I think they are probably counting on Willis to take a leap. And they must like Latu to use such a premium (for us) pick last year. Edited February 21 by adamq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, J-ALL-DAY said: The thing is, those two (Saleh/Ryans) were first time coordinators so Shanny was able to groom them over the years. He was able to give his input and made those two adjust to what he wanted to do. The problem is when you have proven coordinators, they have their own philosophy and it's not as easy to make changes. Shanny's best quality is his eye for assistant coaches. His coaching tree is as big as it is for a reason and he knows who he can coach up and these and who he cannot. Now, a guy like coach Turner is someone you don't say nothing to because he's one of the best to ever do it at his gig. Others? You do need to have more of a say and they need to be willing to adjust to his style. Carroll and Belichick are just a big no no. Those coaches are even more proven than Shanny and it would not be a great fit. The players will also be kind of stuck because they may have just as much, if not more respect for those two than they would Shanny. He's going first year coordinator here or a young coach. There is a reason Fangio chose Miami over us or maybe Shanny decided he did not want Fangio. Also, Fangio and the Dolphins weren't a great fit (even though Fangio did improve the Dolphins defense) and McDaniel was was super excited and gloaty about getting him when Shanahan wasn't interested. Personality things matter. I'm kind of with some of the other folks on here in that I'm reasonably curious about Staley. He had a lot of horses up front with the Rams, but not a lot of horses behind them - that's not a bad fit for how we plan to structure the roster. Zone coverage specialist. Good fit. His head coaching tenure was such a fiasco that you should be able to retain him even if he succeeds as your coordinator - also a pretty good fit if you are looking for a Spags/LeBeau type to be nearly as much of a fixture as Shanahan is - having seen how useful that is in the Super Bowl. Worried about the base front fit with Staley. I don't have enough knowledge to make a judgement on that. I do know that his previous stop thought that everything was getting too complicated and they weren't able to just play football and go get people on defense. We've played sort of complicated zone coverages on defense under Ryans and Saleh - but it was like the Shanahan offense sort of complicated where you only need to know a bunch of variations within a couple of base plays. This may or may not make a good fit with what our guys have been through. But we tend to prioritize drafting dudes that can handle intellectual/responsibility load well. I think having powerful voices around Staley is going to help a lot - he clearly just didn't demand teamwide respect as a head coach. Hard to watch Chargers this season and think differently. But I'm confident that this defense will respect him if they think that his ideas have merit. It's a smart bunch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I predict the 49ers will hire a defensive coordinator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 said: I predict the 49ers will hire a defensive coordinator. Bring me Rex Ryan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Forge said: Bring me Rex Ryan! You didn't hear this from me, but if you want to lure him in for an interview, you have to use the foot signal. It's like the bat signal, but with feet. Just gotta find a way to get it out of the ESPN storage room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Outside of fixing the O-Line, the biggest need this off-season is a capable body to play alongside Warner. Dre won't be Dre anytime soon and as fits go, Al-Shaair just makes too much sense. It's obvious from this clip that he's still plugged in and tight with this locker room. He may be looking for a long-term deal but if we can rent him for a year, letting him the market again in 2025, I think we should make him a priority. Edited February 22 by 757-NINER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Kawakami thinks it's Jeff ulbrich, but I don't know why the jets allow that to happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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