MaddHatter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Your posts definitely gave the impression that because Rodgers was " taking practice reps" at 77 days was an indication he will be fully back performing like the Rodgers of years past for 2024....which is far from any indication that might be the case. Strawman will strawmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Play 2 more years and retire as a Viking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Brady still retired? If so, then Rodgers plays for another year. Brady comes back, Rodgers has to either retire that season, or play one more year than Brady. Dude could have played till he was 45, had he committed to training his legs and core. But the footspeed got slow and the brain kept telling him to extend plays. He's not the light footed QB that he was in his younger days. So he needs to change his ways if he is going to survive and not end up in the hospital again. I have zero doubt in the arm. Lots of doubt as to if his brain will allow him to adjust his game due to his physical shortcomings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I think he has a lot going against him. The injury is bad this late in his career, he still has to have game experience with his first new team since 2008. And he's walking in a division where you have the Bills and Dolphins as serious threats to win it and then the conference has a brick wall in the Chiefs. There's a good chance next year ends and he realizes that this isn't going to be any easier than he had it with the Packers and that plus age/injury kills a lot of his drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodeeWater_Cheezburger Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Maybe play this year and see how he feels. If it works out well, go for another year. At the age of 40, he and the team are smart to just take it on a year by year basis. I don't see him playing for much longer though. Old man Favre went until he was 40 and fell off of a cliff his final year. Brady played longer, but he is a very special case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Never know with this guy. It wouldn't surprise if he continued on his downward trajectory. His interviews give me no faith he's had any sort of enlightenment, however. If he's checked out of football and enjoyed his relaxed season, he'll be done soon. But watching an entire season was effectively retirement practice for him. Maybe he absolutely hated it and is inspired to play within his new physical limits. He's still has a sharp mind and if he's motivated and committed and refocused he could be MVP form Rodgers again. Impossible to know how this affected him and that's the key to how his story ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATcha Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/13/2024 at 9:57 AM, MaddHatter said: I have no idea what Sirius is paying Brady (couldn't find the renewal) but I think ESPN is paying McAfee $13/m yr for the rights to his show and pulling it off Youtube and onto ESPN. I know Rogan is making $60-70m/yr for his, but his Podcast seems unique. Kind of like using Taylor Swift's income to justify becoming a musician. Anyways, I can see why he'd walk away if he can get a $30-35m/yr deal with ABC/NBC/FOX like Brady and maybe another $10-15m/yr for a podcast plus endorsement money and never have to get hit by a 300lb man from behind again. All those guys you mentioned are actually, you know, likable. Rogers, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I doubt he is ever the same again after the Achilles. So he should retire while he can in that regard. Of course, the guy is so damn narcissistic he would go as far as saying he could have returned the same season from the injury when hundreds of players before him who are 10x the athlete were never able to. I don't see things ending well with him, and the Jets will have to go down with that ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/15/2024 at 10:49 AM, vegas492 said: Brady still retired? If so, then Rodgers plays for another year. Brady comes back, Rodgers has to either retire that season, or play one more year than Brady. Dude could have played till he was 45, had he committed to training his legs and core. But the footspeed got slow and the brain kept telling him to extend plays. He's not the light footed QB that he was in his younger days. So he needs to change his ways if he is going to survive and not end up in the hospital again. I have zero doubt in the arm. Lots of doubt as to if his brain will allow him to adjust his game due to his physical shortcomings now. His speed left him awhile ago. At this point the only knock against him is health. He's never been the most durable QB and this is his first real major injury. Who knows how his Achilles is going to hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/13/2024 at 8:47 PM, nagahide13 said: He's going to have to change his game. Less time in the pocket/letting plays develop and more getting the ball out quickly. He's pretty much a pure pocket passer at this point. He hasn't extended plays like that in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 16 hours ago, StatKing said: He's pretty much a pure pocket passer at this point. He hasn't extended plays like that in years. LOL. How did he get injured again? The guy is ALWAYS looking to extend plays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 29 minutes ago, vegas492 said: LOL. How did he get injured again? The guy is ALWAYS looking to extend plays. It was a freak injury. Do you not remember how he used to play pre 2019? There was a stretch of his career where he wouldn't stay in the pocket at all. He won two MVPs under Lafleur primarily because he started to come to grips with his physical decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, StatKing said: It was a freak injury. Do you not remember how he used to play pre 2019? There was a stretch of his career where he wouldn't stay in the pocket at all. He won two MVPs under Lafleur primarily because he started to come to grips with his physical decline. Man, you are really off. Rodgers has always wanted to extend plays. The only difference between young Rodgers and the Rodgers we had the last year or so was that he was unable to get to where he wanted to extend plays. But it wasn't for lack of effort or the "want to" to extend plays. His legs just wouldn't take him there. And saying that he is a pocket passer is just false. You want him to be one. We all wanted him to be one. But it is not something that he has ever wanted for himself. Just watch the play where he was injured. Ball was supposed to come out quickly to a slant to Wilson. The guy is WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open. You don't get more open than that. Rodgers looked right at him, and pulled it down to extend the play. The cut block worked, but then everyone had time to get up and rush Rodgers, which led to his sack and subsequent injury. It was typical Rodgers being Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, vegas492 said: Man, you are really off. Rodgers has always wanted to extend plays. The only difference between young Rodgers and the Rodgers we had the last year or so was that he was unable to get to where he wanted to extend plays. But it wasn't for lack of effort or the "want to" to extend plays. His legs just wouldn't take him there. And saying that he is a pocket passer is just false. You want him to be one. We all wanted him to be one. But it is not something that he has ever wanted for himself. Just watch the play where he was injured. Ball was supposed to come out quickly to a slant to Wilson. The guy is WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open. You don't get more open than that. Rodgers looked right at him, and pulled it down to extend the play. The cut block worked, but then everyone had time to get up and rush Rodgers, which led to his sack and subsequent injury. It was typical Rodgers being Rodgers. He isn't the same player he was 5 years ago. Does he still try to occasionally extend plays? Of course, but not nearly as often as he used to. He just happens to be so physically gifted that 85% of peak Rodgers can still win MVPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, StatKing said: He isn't the same player he was 5 years ago. Does he still try to occasionally extend plays? Of course, but not nearly as often as he used to. He just happens to be so physically gifted that 85% of peak Rodgers can still win MVPs. Yeah, count how many pass plays he had last year. And then find how many plays he extended. The ratio between then and now is still very similar. His body just doesn't allow him to escape as well. But extending plays is extending plays. His last year in GB, you knew when the situation was big...3rd down or something like that, he was usually trying to extend the play, even though his legs didn't work as well and his receivers weren't as gifted at running that scramble drill. He is not a pocket passer, though he should be, because he'd be excellent at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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