swede700 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 34 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: i think Risner could be cut. I think it's far more likely that they keep an extra OL and only 2 QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Even with Hall's improved performance against the Browns I'm still fine trying to get him on the PS. I'm comfortable with Darnold and Mullens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: QB (2): Darnold, Mullens RB (4): Jones, Chandler, Nwangwu, Ham WR (6): Jets, Addison, Nailor, Powell, Jackson, Jones TE (3): Mundt, Oliver, Muse OL (9): Darrisaw, Brandel, Bradbury, Ingram, O’Neill, Quessenberry, Risner, Feeney, Rouse DL (5): Phillips, Bullard, Tillery, Rodriguez, Taimani ED (6): Greenard, Turner, Van Ginkel, Jones II, Ward, Richter LB (4): Pace, Cashman, Grugier-Hill, Asamoah CB (6): Gilmore, Murphy, Griffin, Evans, McCain, McGlothern S (4): Smith, Bynum, Metellus, Cine ST (3): Reichard, Wright, DaPaola This is where I am with my latest prediction, I’m currently at 52 and I really don’t know who I’d keep as the 53rd guy. My list to pick one from is; Jaren Hall Myles Gaskin Michael Jurgens Jonah Williams Jaquelin Roy Jalen Redmond Theo Jackson I’d say Jonah Williams is DL5 ahead of Roy and Taki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 hours ago, VikeManDan said: Those last DL and DB spots are hardest to shake out for me. Also, are they going to IR Gabriel Murphy? Probably. So deep at Edge that it would make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 4 minutes ago, Snake Plissken said: I’d say Jonah Williams is DL5 ahead of Roy and Taki Williams isn’t a nose tackle. They are going to keep one of Roy or Taimani to backup Phillips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Does anyone else wonder if Ingram could be a surprise cut? I do. Has seemed to regress. I would guess that the team is hopefully that Risner could step in and start. Ingram has looked bad and has been outplayed by Robinson. Maybe he needs to go to 2nd team or PS and regroup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Does anyone else wonder if Ingram could be a surprise cut? No. He has two full years of starting experience, is on a cheap deal that would not save much, and we still have him under contract next year. Can I see them trading him? Perhaps. But I do not believe he will just be cut. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Williams isn’t a nose tackle. They are going to keep one of Roy or Taimani to backup Phillips. Both can be true. Williams can be ahead of them and they can keep NT2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Could Evans be a surprise trade or cut? He's falling down the depth chart and it doesn't seem like he's playing great with the 2's. They always need depth at CB but they've signed a lot of CBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 32 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Could Evans be a surprise trade or cut? He's falling down the depth chart and it doesn't seem like he's playing great with the 2's. They always need depth at CB but they've signed a lot of CBs After losing Jackson and Blackmon, I think Evans is safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 6 hours ago, SemperFeist said: QB (2): Darnold, Mullens RB (4): Jones, Chandler, Nwangwu, Ham WR (6): Jets, Addison, Nailor, Powell, Jackson, Jones TE (3): Mundt, Oliver, Muse OL (9): Darrisaw, Brandel, Bradbury, Ingram, O’Neill, Quessenberry, Risner, Feeney, Rouse DL (5): Phillips, Bullard, Tillery, Rodriguez, Taimani ED (6): Greenard, Turner, Van Ginkel, Jones II, Ward, Richter LB (4): Pace, Cashman, Grugier-Hill, Asamoah CB (6): Gilmore, Murphy, Griffin, Evans, McCain, McGlothern S (4): Smith, Bynum, Metellus, Cine ST (3): Reichard, Wright, DaPaola This is where I am with my latest prediction, I’m currently at 52 and I really don’t know who I’d keep as the 53rd guy. My list to pick one from is; Jaren Hall Myles Gaskin Michael Jurgens Jonah Williams Jaquelin Roy Jalen Redmond Theo Jackson You think Theo Jackson would be cut? No way and on that list he is the one you keep, 2nd would be Michael Jurgens and I still would not mind getting rid of Quessenberry or Feeney and having Jurgens take their place. Jones at WR I would not mind getting rid of and he could make the practice squad where Jurgens if cut will be picked up by another team. Theo though with his improvement and play, not sure just one good game for Cine makes him jump Jackson. Taimani I would not want to keep, I would rather have Roy or Jonah Williams. I would be fine keeping two QBs and no question Jaren Hall could make the practice squad, doubt the would be picked up so that would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 For better or worse, it seems Tonyan may be on the outside looking in. Entering the preseason’s final week, some don’t believe Tonyan will make the cut next week. For example, KSTP’s Darren Wolfson said on SKOR North Tuesday, “Tonyan, he got a good chance here, but this to me, signifies that his body might just be done. It’s a phenomenally tough sport, he’s a big guy, he’s obviously taken a pounding, I wonder if this is the end of the road here. I don’t see a path here.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/analysis/questions-answered-russell-wilson-robert-tonyan-making-the-team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: For better or worse, it seems Tonyan may be on the outside looking in. Entering the preseason’s final week, some don’t believe Tonyan will make the cut next week. For example, KSTP’s Darren Wolfson said on SKOR North Tuesday, “Tonyan, he got a good chance here, but this to me, signifies that his body might just be done. It’s a phenomenally tough sport, he’s a big guy, he’s obviously taken a pounding, I wonder if this is the end of the road here. I don’t see a path here.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/analysis/questions-answered-russell-wilson-robert-tonyan-making-the-team? Prime example of can't make the club in the tub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Will Ragatz, SI.com: To get you set for cutdown day, let's take a look at the Vikings' entire roster and sort each player into three tiers regarding their likelihood of making the 53: locks, bubble players, and longshots. Quarterback/Running Back/Fullback — Locks (6): Sam Darnold, Aaron Jones, Nick Mullens, C.J. Ham, Ty Chandler, Kene Nwangwu — Bubble: Jaren Hall, Myles Gaskin — Longshots: Mo Ibrahim, DeWayne McBride, Matt Corral I combined these because it's an easy group to predict. I'm comfortable calling Nwangwu a lock, mostly due to his kick return role. He's also the logical RB3 after earning 97 yards on 12 carries (8.1 YPC) through two preseason games. Hall and Gaskin seem likely to end up the practice squad, especially because the Vikings can have the BYU product in uniform as their emergency third quarterback on game days. Tight End — IR: T.J. Hockenson — Locks (2): Josh Oliver, Johnny Mundt — Bubble: Nick Muse, Robert Tonyan — Longshots: N’Keal Harry, Sammis Reyes, Neal Johnson Muse seems to be a lot closer to the good side of the bubble than Tonyan, who has missed a chunk of time during training camp due to injury. Muse has been a consistent playmaker throughout camp. Rookie Trey Knox was waived with an injury designation on Thursday. Wide Receiver — Locks (4): Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Jalen Nailor, Brandon Powell — Bubble: Trishton Jackson, Trent Sherfield, Jeshaun Jones — Longshots: Thayer Thomas, Lucky Jackson, Malik Knowles, Justin Hall I can't see Powell getting cut. He knows the offense well, he's a useful gadget guy, and he was the Vikings' primary punt returner last season as well. The question here is whether the Vikings keep five receivers or six. If it's five, they'll have a tough decision between Jackson (huge preseason, some real upside) and Sherfield (proven NFL production, better run blocker). I also threw Jones in the bubble category as a potential surprise guy due to how good the rookie has been this summer. Offensive Line — Locks (7): Christian Darrisaw, Brian O'Neill, Garrett Bradbury, Blake Brandel, Ed Ingram, David Quessenberry, Walter Rouse — Bubble: Michael Jurgens, Dan Feeney, Dalton Risner, Tyrese Robinson — Longshots: Doug Nester, Spencer Rolland, Henry Byrd, Matt Cindric, Chuck Filiaga The way I see it, the Vikings' five current starters and two backup tackles are locks. Quessenberry has been dominant in preseason action and Rouse has impressed throughout camp. What's left to sort out is the depth on the interior. You've got the rookie Jurgens, veterans Feeney and Risner, and a sleeper in Robinson, plus a few longshots. Complicating things is that both Risner and Feeney have been injured recently. Ingram isn't at risk of being cut, but he might be at risk of losing his hold on the starting RG job at some point. Defensive Line — Locks (4): Harrison Phillips, Jonathan Bullard, Jerry Tillery, Levi Drake Rodriguez — Bubble: Jonah Williams, Jaquelin Roy, James Lynch, Taki Taimani — Longshots: Jalen Redmond, Tyler Manoa I don't care if he's a seventh-round rookie, I've seen enough to move Rodriguez into the locks tier. He's been that good. Beyond the top four, you've got a handful of players competing for one or maybe two spots. Williams, with his starting experience, is the safest bet. Keep half an eye on Taimani, who is the Vikings' highest-graded player on the entire roster this preseason (per PFF). Outside Linebackers — Locks (3): Jonathan Greenard, Andrew Van Ginkel, Dallas Turner — Bubble: Pat Jones II, Jihad Ward, Bo Richter, Gabriel Murphy, Andre Carter II — Longshots: Owen Porter Jones and Ward both played 600-plus regular season snaps last season. They're on the precipice of the lock section. But I just can't quite put either one in there. What if the Vikings only keep one of those two and go with more youth to round out the OLB room? Richter, Murphy, and Carter have all shown flashes throughout camp. Murphy was trending towards having a good shot at making the team until he got hurt, which could ruin his chances. The depth of this room is ridiculous; even Porter has shown some upside and could wind up on the practice squad. Linebackers — Locks (3): Ivan Pace Jr., Blake Cashman, Kamu Grugier-Hill — Bubble: Brian Asamoah II, Dallas Gant — Longshots: Jordan Kunaszyk I think Grugier-Hill's experience and special teams value makes him a lock. Asamoah isn't far behind him, but it's worth noting that he has graded out lower than the rookie Gant in preseason action. Kunaszyk has a strong track record on special teams in the NFL, but he also hasn't been with the Vikings for very long. Safeties — Locks (4): Harrison Smith, Camryn Bynum, Josh Metellus, Theo Jackson — Bubble: Bobby McCain, Lewis Cine — Longshots: None If the Vikings keep a fifth safety, is it McCain or Cine? Or is it Jay Ward, who I'm listing as a cornerback in this exercise? McCain is the veteran option. Cine put his ability and potential on full display in Cleveland. This is a tricky one to figure out. A potential trade — Cine for a conditional sixth-rounder? — could also factor in. Cornerbacks — Locks (3): Stephon Gilmore, Byron Murphy Jr., Shaq Griffin — Bubble: Akayleb Evans, Fabian Moreau, Dwight McGlothern, Duke Shelley, Jay Ward — Longshots: A.J. Green III, Nahshon Wright, Jaylin Williams I don't think the Vikings want to give up on a player with Evans' tools just yet, but I also couldn't quite bring myself to call him a lock. Moreau, who has significant NFL experience, is probably on the good side of the bubble. I might even say the same about the rookie McGlothern, who has been consistently impressive all summer. He's a playmaker. Where does that leave Shelley and Ward? I'm not sure! Wright, who the Vikings acquired for Andrew Booth Jr., is very tall but doesn't have much else working in his favor. Specialists — Locks (3): Will Reichard, Ryan Wright, Andrew DePaola In total, that's 39 locks (19 offense, 17 defense, 3 specialists). If I'm right on those, that's 14 spots that are still up for grabs to some extent. We'll find out who gets them on Tuesday. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-53-man-roster-preview-locks-bubble-players-and-longshots- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 What is the benefit of waiving someone to put on ir instead of just putting them on ir. Or what is the reasoning behind it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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