Thomas5737 Posted Sunday at 10:43 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:43 PM 59 minutes ago, DawgX said: Yeah, his injury obviously made things worse, but he was making some horrible reads and decisions his last year with us. Maybe the injury was messing with him mentally, who knows? Happy for Baker, though. He certainly was/is easier to root for than Leroy/leshaun/dushbag. Eh, I think it was more the staff making a point. It was the same crappy empty backfield long developing routes from 2019. The offense looked identical. It may have been what was needed for all parties. Put the QB in a position to fail, let him go elsewhere and go get your guy. That guy just isn't what they thought they were getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM 12 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: He is also an abrasive personality. I tui k he needed to get over himself to some extent. Pretty sure he is the same guy. Still irritates those easily irritated. Success makes it less important. Heck, if we were doing great there would be very little talk about Watson's off the field stuff. People would just accept having a gross person leading their team. The important thing would be that he is doing great QB things in an entertainment industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM OK....this is absolutely hilarious......yet I'm crying unconsolably at the same time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortes02 Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM I wonder if Watson & the Browns could come to a mutual agreement in that it's just not going to work in Cleveland and do a deferred contract for him to help ease the cap hit for the Browns and release him. They can spread it out over 30 years and Watson would be guaranteed 3 million a year until he's 60. I would think it's a win-win for both parties. Just a thought. Peace!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM 3 minutes ago, cortes02 said: I wonder if Watson & the Browns could come to a mutual agreement in that it's just not going to work in Cleveland and do a deferred contract for him to help ease the cap hit for the Browns and release him. They can spread it out over 30 years and Watson would be guaranteed 3 million a year until he's 60. I would think it's a win-win for both parties. Just a thought. Peace!!! I could be wrong, but I highly doubt the league would allow such a thing. Plus, why would Watson agree to that? Unless he's truly full of himself and thinks another team would give him a shot and pay him decent money. Roughly $100 million or so over the next few years is better than $3 million over the course of decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted Sunday at 11:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:16 PM 16 minutes ago, DawgX said: I could be wrong, but I highly doubt the league would allow such a thing. Plus, why would Watson agree to that? Unless he's truly full of himself and thinks another team would give him a shot and pay him decent money. Roughly $100 million or so over the next few years is better than $3 million over the course of decades. Yeah I agree, I think they would have to be voided years which are owed when the contract expires. No Bobby Bonilla contract would be allowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here'sJim Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM I think this season has finally broke me. I might not have watched every Browns game over the last 10 years, but I have never deliberately chosen not to watch the Browns when I had the opportunity to. Even during the 2016-2017 days, I was excited to see us tank for high picks knowing we could turn this thing around one day, maybe even next season. Today was that day. Last week I turned the TV before half in a fuming rage. Today, I hung out with some non-football fan friends and enjoyed my Sunday. I didn't think about our trash can of a QB. I didn't think about all the wasted picks. I didn't think about all the wasted money and the bad contract terms. I didn't think of all the lost potential on the team. I didn't think about what's going to happen to our front office or coaching staff. I didn't think about the mile deep hole we have dug ourselves into that will take multiple years to dig out of. I just connected with some other people who bring joy to my life. That's what this trade did ultimately. It has completely suffocated my interest in this team to the point where I don't care what happens anymore. I will probably be back at some point with renewed interest, but for now, it's nice to not watch the multiple year long train wreck while it's happening in real time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted Sunday at 11:26 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:26 PM 38 minutes ago, Bucketheadsdad said: OK....this is absolutely hilarious......yet I'm crying unconsolably at the same time. I wanna cry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted Sunday at 11:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:27 PM 35 minutes ago, cortes02 said: I wonder if Watson & the Browns could come to a mutual agreement in that it's just not going to work in Cleveland and do a deferred contract for him to help ease the cap hit for the Browns and release him. They can spread it out over 30 years and Watson would be guaranteed 3 million a year until he's 60. I would think it's a win-win for both parties. Just a thought. Peace!!! Somehow I don’t think Watson is the Bobby Bonilla type. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted Sunday at 11:43 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:43 PM 55 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: Eh, I think it was more the staff making a point. It was the same crappy empty backfield long developing routes from 2019. The offense looked identical. It may have been what was needed for all parties. Put the QB in a position to fail, let him go elsewhere and go get your guy. That guy just isn't what they thought they were getting. Idk man, I keep seeing these clips of open receivers every week and #4 just missing them, holding the ball, etc. Spread formations should make things as easy as possible for the QB as it becomes pretty hard to hide what you’re doing. If a QB can’t read a defense well, it simplified things Both Watson and Baker ran spread concepts in college. If Watson sucks out of spread concepts, which are supposed to be his bread and butter, good god help is. The second half he actually looked like a competent backup QB when we went under center a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted Monday at 12:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:13 AM 1 hour ago, DawgX said: I could be wrong, but I highly doubt the league would allow such a thing. Plus, why would Watson agree to that? Unless he's truly full of himself and thinks another team would give him a shot and pay him decent money. Roughly $100 million or so over the next few years is better than $3 million over the course of decades. Perhaps he would take a phone call from a certain someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted Monday at 12:52 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:52 AM 1 hour ago, cortes02 said: I wonder if Watson & the Browns could come to a mutual agreement in that it's just not going to work in Cleveland and do a deferred contract for him to help ease the cap hit for the Browns and release him. They can spread it out over 30 years and Watson would be guaranteed 3 million a year until he's 60. I would think it's a win-win for both parties. Just a thought. Peace!!! No way play him let him get the crap beat out of him While I draft around him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted Monday at 05:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:21 AM 5 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Idk man, I keep seeing these clips of open receivers every week and #4 just missing them, holding the ball, etc. Spread formations should make things as easy as possible for the QB as it becomes pretty hard to hide what you’re doing. If a QB can’t read a defense well, it simplified things Both Watson and Baker ran spread concepts in college. If Watson sucks out of spread concepts, which are supposed to be his bread and butter, good god help is. The second half he actually looked like a competent backup QB when we went under center a lot more. I was comparing 2021 to 2019, not this season. We're stuck with Watson, there would be no benefit to put him in a position to fail. The regime got who they wanted. They just picked poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:15 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:15 AM 7 hours ago, cortes02 said: I wonder if Watson & the Browns could come to a mutual agreement in that it's just not going to work in Cleveland and do a deferred contract for him to help ease the cap hit for the Browns and release him. They can spread it out over 30 years and Watson would be guaranteed 3 million a year until he's 60. I would think it's a win-win for both parties. Just a thought. Peace!!! I doubt it I think you have to just ride it out and/or eat the record breaking dead cap to move on from him like we saw the Broncos do with Wilson. You have also provided the case study for why teams should never and probably will never give out a fully guaranteed contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted Monday at 10:06 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:06 AM First team in a decade to score under 20 in the first 6 games. And this is including 2 games where the D/ST spotted you 7 ffs lol. 1 TD in their last 29 drives. Continuing to trot the sex pest out there is absurd. Maybe they give him till the bye, but 3 more games of this seems hard to imagine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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