ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 14 hours ago, TakeTheBallDeep said: Cowherd just mentioned maybe the NFL should consider an Amnesty Clause type option, each team gets 1 every five to ten years for situations like this. Basically, NFL doesn’t let Tua play again, pays him his money, and doesn’t go against the team cap Not sure how realistic something like this would be but I’ll let those of you who are much smarter than me chime in. I do think the NFL does need to get creative with this situation and be open to all options The problem is that players don't show signs of brain damage that you can point to on an MRI, so someone's risk is based on hearsay reports of the number of subconcussive/concussive hits they've taken or any memory issues players would happen to notice in themselves (which, while terrifying, is not an objective standard). An Amnesty Clause could work in that teams could simply exclude a player from salary cap calculations, but I don't see any way to tie it to brain injury susceptibility. And if Tua wants to play so that he can collect that $100MM+ guaranteed for injury that's on his deal, his symptoms will eventually subside and his brain will look normal on a scan, so on what basis would the Dolphins DQ him? A much better fit for this type of thing would have been Ryan Shazier. Credit to the Steelers, when he had his injury, they converted the money in his deal to a signing bonus so he'd get it immediately: We're having this conversation not because the health circumstances warrant it, but because the Dolphins and Browns (and Falcons and currently Broncos) are staring down some pretty unhealthy cap hits in the future. And, well, yeah. They'll pay it down, have a quiet year in FA or two, probably lose a bunch, and then be back in a few years. The Giants are paying that price now, happens to everyone (except the damn Packers). Edited September 13 by ramssuperbowl99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 44 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: Or maybe teams should just rethink signing frail, injury prone players to 200 million dollar contracts. Well I agree with you on that one, I wouldn't have paid Tua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvadorsDeli Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, AngusMcFife said: Or maybe teams should just rethink signing frail, injury prone players to 200 million dollar contracts. This is one thing that's kind of surprising to me. What was the rush on giving him his extension this offseason when a.) he was terrible down the stretch against every decent team they played, raising on-the-field questions about how far he could bring that team to begin with and b.) it appears to just be accepted by all sides that he was one concussion away from needing to retire. Just seemed to be an obvious candidate for the 5th year option + franchise tag route. It's a terrible situation all around but when this was apparently going to be the reaction to the very next big hit Tua took no matter what I cannot understand why the Dolphins jumped so quickly into making this an unfixable problem for themselves. Edited September 13 by SalvadorsDeli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 It might sound incredibly heartless, but it’s total BS to bail teams out of bad cap management with the contracts they’re giving out, all because of injuries forcing someone out. It’s the risk of the business. Obviously that hasn’t happened (yet), but it being on the table should be a slap in the face. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 2 minutes ago, SalvadorsDeli said: What was the rush on giving him his extension this offseason They wanted to get ahead of Dak, Purdy, Love, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) Get a backup who can lead the offense because Skylar Thompson isn't it. Don't let Tua play another snap. I don't think they'll go far, but it might be enough to save McDaniel's job. (Not that I necessarily see this as a positive for anybody except him and his staff.) Edited September 13 by y*so*blu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan33185 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-nfl-qb-predicts-tom-brady-will-sign-with-dolphins-after-tua-tagovailoa-goes-down-with-concussion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 23 minutes ago, Dan33185 said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-nfl-qb-predicts-tom-brady-will-sign-with-dolphins-after-tua-tagovailoa-goes-down-with-concussion/ I wish Brady never came out of retirement that one time, then we wouldn’t have to read these stories every time a QB goes down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscottso Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 In my opinion, they should trade for Jimmy G. He knows the offense, and he can steer the ship until Tua comes back. Just a thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, wackywabbit said: You realize that either they or he would have to potentially buy him out of his contract with FOX and he's also in negotiation to buy a stake in the Raiders himself, right? Tom's not unretiring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 If I’m a team with cap space, I’m signing the best backup QB that I can every single offseason, then dangle him in front of these injured playoff teams come Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Bring in the Blaine Train. Gabbert time. Wooooooooooooooooooo. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Bachelor08 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 The calls for Tua to retire are growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 May I interest you in Davis Mills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, TakeTheBallDeep said: Cowherd just mentioned maybe the NFL should consider an Amnesty Clause type option, each team gets 1 every five to ten years for situations like this. Basically, NFL doesn’t let Tua play again, pays him his money, and doesn’t go against the team cap Not sure how realistic something like this would be but I’ll let those of you who are much smarter than me chime in. I do think the NFL does need to get creative with this situation and be open to all options Who pays him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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